(warning very long...)
As I follow and reflect on the discussion about visual protocol and
offering visual results from an Open Space experience and then think
about how we connect benefits of self-organizing to a client’s
desired outcome, so many questions surface for me.
How can we honor a client’s desired outcome which assumes
predictability and control when Open Space invites something quite
different? With my limited experience with Open Space (I’ve only
done two as an unpaid volunteer) and a long corporate career, my gut
tells me that the Open Space way of lighting up passion and
responsibility in individuals and collectives will lead to results
that far exceed what a client could initially expect. I know
because all my life, I’ve seen how much gets accomplished when
people are passionate about what they do. Open Space is all about
that. Many clients want a clear-cut route to improved results,
better service, higher quality, etc. This we cannot promise.
Rather, OS is a journey, a new way of doing which means undoing what
didn’t work, and seeing what we don’t’ want to see to create what we
can’t know.
How can we effectively convey to a client the importance of gut feel
and intuition, inviting them to an experience that they must “feel”
and not just “think”? The dilemma is that you cannot know Open Space
until you’ve done Open Space and not just once. How can you
describe what get’s ignited in people when they get to choose (Law
of Two Feet), feel Equal and live/work according to principles (4 OS
principles) – something that makes so much sense but that is so
different than what our current hierarchical world dictates?
Once people are activated in an Open Space way, I think it ignites a
longing that is in each of us and the difficulty is that you just
don’t want to go back to the old way. How then do we blend
traditional and self-organizing?
I struggle with these questions and as I embark on this wild ride of
OS, I imagine myself building trust at the beginning of my
relationship with clients talking about the issues that they care
about and that they know: their business. Hopefully by connecting
and being honest, I will establish enough trust so that they will
want to try this new way, knowing deep inside them that the old ways
aren’t working any more. It’s about finding the courage of our
voice and actions, doing this together in a supportive way.
Knowing that we cannot immediately and fully internalize all that OS
represents, I then struggle with how we can optimize and capture
what Open Space does inside you. What I did with incredible help
from Michele Young, who assisted me on the two Open Spaces that I
facilitated, was create a visual show that not only tried to capture
in its authenticity what happened there but also tried to convey the
spirit of the invitation and preparation and the OS concepts and
themes of this new way of being so that people through pictures can
remember what it “felt” like to be part of this. I questioned
myself in doing so wondering if this went against the principles of
self-organizing, equality, and the self-effacing role of a
facilitator. Then I told myself: heck…I’m doing it anyway as a gift.
IONS Conference Open Space in Tucson
http://www.authorstream.com/Presentation/daigle_Suzanne-208049-ions-away-presentation-open-space-spiritual-inspirational-ppt-powerpoint/
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net>
wrote:
Thanks Michael -- I think J
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From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of
Michael M Pannwitz
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:46 AM
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Subject: Re: AW: How can we foster sustainable outcomes?
Liebe Catherine,
ich hab zu Deiner Frage schon mal in dieser Liste auf Englisch
geschrieben, aber hier kommts nochmal auf deutsch (ich fänds super,
wenns auch noch jemand, der es auf französisch und italienisch und
Latein probiert, aufschreibt, damit es sich in der ganzen Schweiz
verbreiten kann):
Mich interessieren Nachhaltigkeit oder nachhaltige Ergebnisse in
meiner
Rolle als Begleiter überhaupt nicht.
Wenn der Veranstalter allerdings sowas will, nehm ich ihm ja auch in
keiner Weise krumm, dann sage ich ihm, was er tun kann, damit die
Wahrscheinlichkeit von nachhaltiger Umsetzung von Verabredungen zu
Vorhaben steigt und welcher Aufwand von Veranstaltern dazu mit
ziemlich
gutem Erfolg dafür betrieben worden ist.
Gleich zu Anfang möchte ich Dir aber verraten, dass die Form der
Dokumentation dabei eine eher untergeordnete Rolle spielt (hierzu
hatte
ich auch auf die Berichte von John Engle verwiesen aus Situationen, in
denen es kein Papier, keine Stifte gibt und in denen viele der
Teilnehmenden auch nicht lesen oder schreiben können).
Also hier meine Hinweise an den Veranstalter:
1. Ein Vorbereitungstreffen mit einer Gruppe, die in etwa die
erwartete
Teilnehmerschaft abbildet, also das ganze System, wie es sich zu
diesem
Zeitpunkt für ihn darstellt, zusammenbringen. Sie / er gehört dazu.
Optimal ist, wenn diese Gruppe authorisiert ist mit ihr / ihm
gemeinsame
alles zu entscheiden: Thema, Einzuladende, Einladung, Organisation,
etc.
Ich biete ihm die Begleitung des in der Regel 3,5stündigen Treffens
an.
2. Eine Einladung, in der nicht nur zu der Veranstaltung eingeladen
wird, sondern auch schon zu dem 8 bis 12 Wochen später stattfindendem
"Nächsten Treffen", bei dem die Vorhaben, die in der
Handlungsplanung am
Ende der OST Veranstaltung verabredet wurden, angeschaut werden...wo
sind wir jetzt?, gibts neue Vorhaben?, wie gehts weiter?...plus
mögliche
weitere "Nächste Treffen".
3. Ein Verfahren, in dem so gut wie es irgendwie möglich ist
sichergestellt wird, dass all diejenigen auf jeweils spezifische Art
und
Weise vom Veranstalter und Mitgliedern der Vorbereitungsgruppe
eingeladen werden, die dafür notwendig erscheinen, die Erwartungen
unter
der gewählten Überschrift auch tatsächlich einzulösen.
4. Eine dreitägige Veranstaltung, also 16 Stunden auf drei Tage
verteilt
(Nachmittag, ganzer Tag, Vor-oder Nachmittag), zweimal schlafen, mit
einer Handlungsplanung am letzten Tag.
5. Eine Dokuwand mit allen aus den Anliegengruppen entstehenden
Ergebnissen, die nochmal von allen gegen Ende des 2. Tages gemeinsame
zur Kenntnis genommen wird mit der Möglichkeit, dann noch zu jedem
Ergebnisblatt auf einem Ergänzungsblatt weitere Fragen, Hinweise, etc.
festzuhalten.(Diese gesammelten Werke können entweder als Papierdoku
in
der Nacht vom 2. auf den 3. Tag hergestellt werden und den
Teilnehmenden
am dritten Tag morgens gegeben werden oder als pdf/eDoku nach der
Veranstaltung auf einer www erscheinen, zu der die Teilnehmenden
Zugang
haben).
6. Eine Kontaktliste der Teilnehmenden mit von den TeilnehmerInnen
überprüften Kontaktdaten für alle Teilnehmenden, die das wollen, am
Ende
der Veranstaltung an alle Teilnehmenden für die Kommunikation nach der
Tagung verteilen (die Kontaktliste wurde im Laufe der Veranstaltung
von
den Teilnehmenden selber erstellt).
7. Kopien der Verabredungen, die in der Handlungsplanung zu den
Vorhaben
entstanden sind, an alle Teilnehmenden innert einer Woche nach der
Veranstaltung verschicken samt Einladung zu dem bereits bekannten
"Nächsten Treffen".
8. Deutliche Hinweise darauf, das alles von den Teilnehmenden so
weit es
irgend möglich ist, selbst getan wird (ihre Anliegengruppen
selbständig
organisieren,Dokublätter anfertigen,Kontaktliste erstellen...)
Für Veranstalter, die Nachhaltigkeit wollen, ist das alles sehr
einfach,
einleuchtend, notwendig.
Für Veranstalter, die das nicht (wirklich) wollen, ist das alles eine
eher unüberwindbare Barriere.
So, das ist das, was ich mache und ich möchte nicht, dass es als
Rezept
verstanden wird. Wenn jemand es so ausprobiert, würde es mich
überraschen, wenn es nicht klappt....
Herzlich Grüße aus Berlin
mmp
Catherine Pfaehler wrote:
> Dear Reinhard
>
> As you describe it in depth, it becomes more understandable and
really
> sounds wonderful.
>
> What about writing a book on methods and hints for visual
protocols? I
> especially like your idea of the participants doing the visual
protocols
> themselves. Some might even discover they have a talent they
weren't aware
> of!
>
> And my original question remains open - what do others do to foster
> sustainable outcomes?
>
> Heartfully, C.
>
> Catherine Pfaehler Senn
> lic.oec.HSG
> Open Space Begleitung
> St. Alban-Vorstadt 15
> CH - 4052 Basel
> +41-(0)76 - 488 15 46
> c.pfaeh...@open-space-begleitung.ch
> www.open-space-begleitung.ch
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Reinhard Kuchenmueller [mailto:m...@visuelle-protokolle.de]
> Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Juni 2009 07:01
> An: c.pfaeh...@bluewin.ch; osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
> Betreff: AW: How can we foster sustainable outcomes?
>
> Dear Catherine,
>
> it seems t get a dialogue between you and me - and Harrison
defending his
> turf - while all the others are busy discussing Paris Stammtisch
and some
> problems of dogma and exegesis in the holy principles.
>
> My focus lies on the os meeting. My heart belongs to the
paricipating
> people, my head to the client behind everything. In a meeting of
lets say
> 200 participants everybody can choose between lets say ten group
themes in
> every time slot. If it goes for two days, with five time slots,
that makes
> 50 groups of which the everage participant chooses five groups.
All the
> other groups, their themes, their surprising developments, their
exitement,
> their outcome, does not exist for him. All the groups make some
protocols,
> but in the worst possible way, in handwriting, and some typed
short version.
> Our everage participant does rarely read the outcomes of other
groups. The
> facilitator made himself invisible and is of little help. So his
horizon is
> built from 10 percent of the whole meeting. He goes home with a
beautiful
> experience of team building and self organisation, and some
memeory of 10
> percent of the meeting. The client goes home with some written
excerpts, and
> if he is lucky he will be confronted with some ideas afterwards,
of people
> who want to ontinue their threads. Who is helping him to build the
bridge
> between his basic theme, his exspectations, and the outcome? The
> facilitator? By which means?
>
> I would wish all the os people could take part just once in a
visualized os
> event. Some witnesses, fair minded, impartial, are moving from
group to
> group, gathering process, results and atmosphere on small picture
cards.
> Nobody is noticing them. They put these picture cards into a big
picture
> wall, all the time, so that everybody who passes can get all the
procedures
> in some seconds time. And in the evening all the picture cards,
digitalized
> in the meantime, are shown to the plenum as a slide show with some
music,
> for about 10 minutes The participants not only increase the memory
of their
> own group from 20 to 60 percent, as scientists can proove, but at
the same
> time they get an overview about the whole big theme in all its
complexity.
> As if they can suddenly see the whole tree, of which they were
busy handling
> some branches so far. I experienced a deep satisfaction among the
> participants every time we did that work. Of course all that is
against the
> old os dogma, but that does not bother the people at all.
>
> And the client? He gets a detailled insight into all the groups.
The little
> images can be used in many ways to foster sustainable outcomes, as
you say.
> They can be clustered, regrouped, with atonishing results, showing
what
> people really said and mean.They can be used as material to work
with in
> smaller groups who continue with some items, they can be put into
the
> intranet, printed as leaflets, little books, calendars, posters,
hang in the
> corridors ... As means to take the results really seriously.
>
> AND NOW THE BIG QUESTION: is that worth the extra costs of extra
people, who
> visualize the event? Some clients say yes, it is. It makes the
difference
> between a beautiful experience of self orgsnization and the
welding of a
> tool for the organization.
>
> I myself would not propose to visualize every os meeting by external
> visualizers. I would like very much to experiment with internal
> visualization. We developed different ways of visualizing by
participants.
> Once we made 800 union people in vienna draw in little groups, 72
images,
> with an amazing result.
>
> I can imagine, that in every os group two or three people start to
doodle,
> to draw what they experience, on little cards. A bit like world
cafe (I
> propose to the world cafe people to use little cards as well). And
then like
> said before, the cards can be hung into the picture wall, group by
geoup,
> and shown in the evening as slide show. I would very much like to
develop
> this method and to make it available to the whole os community.
>
>
> mit freundlichen Grüßen
> best regards
>
> Reinhard Kuchenmüller
>
> VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE
>
> tel. +39-0566 88929
> www.visuelle-protokolle.de
> ________________________________________
> Von: Catherine Pfaehler [c.pfaeh...@bluewin.ch]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Juni 2009 17:15
> An: Reinhard Kuchenmueller
> Cc: 'OSLIST'
> Betreff: How can we foster sustainable outcomes?
>
> Dear Reinhard
>
> You have a very interesting point there. I have often wondered how
the
> sustainable implementation of visible results can be fostered
"better" by
> me, as in the post-OS-meeting, I often find my clients to focus on
different
> things than what I would have expected.
>
> Then, again, on the other side, I am well aware that a most
important side
> result of an OS event is always teambuilding, communication and a
stronger
> commitment to their organisation by many participants. And if I
succeed in
> allowing the client to really be responsible for what happens with
the
> results, then I need to let go after having asked the evaluation
questions
> and some others like "Does anything need a vessel for coordination
now?" and
> "What has been developing since the OS event?".
>
> Other opinions??
>
> Heartfully, C.
>
> Catherine Pfaehler Senn
> lic.oec.HSG
> Open Space Begleitung
> St. Alban-Vorstadt 15
> CH - 4052 Basel
> +41-(0)76 - 488 15 46
> c.pfaeh...@open-space-begleitung.ch
> www.open-space-begleitung.ch
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Reinhard Kuchenmueller [mailto:m...@visuelle-protokolle.de]
> Gesendet: Montag, 22. Juni 2009 19:12
> Betreff: AW: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?
>
> my two cents:
>
> a principle is defined as a law superordinated to every other law.
> Condition: A certain effect can always be retraced to the same
constellation
> of facts. (wikipedia).
>
> In this sense Harrison's principles are definitively no principles
at all.
> But he was really clever: two martinis and four mundane sentences
- and the
> whole world is repeating them like a mantra. Mantras, as the east
knows
> since thousands of years, don't have to have a meaning, the
essence lies
> behind them. It only gets painful, if you start to worship the
mantras
> instead of the essence.
>
> Why is open space so effective? Certainly not because of the
mantras. As I
> see it, we have to dig deeper:
>
> I could think of principles like:
>
> People are basically interested - to engage themselves
> - to take responsibility
> - to interlink themselves
>
> That happens as soon as one stops to treat people like obstinate
mules.
>
> And there exist conditions, which foster that, which support this
so called
> self organisation.
>
> Certainly open space technology, as it is practised worldwide, is an
> excellent condition for self organisation.
>
> And your 'foundations' define it well.
>
> Rather often a client spends money for an open space event, and
for the
> facilitator who proposes open space as a tool for the clients'
purposes.
> This aspect seems to be underestimated in the debate.
>
> In my view the facilitator is responsible to link the proposed and
choosen
> form of the event, in our case open space, with the system and the
purpose
> of the client. What the client pays for is not the self
organisation of his
> people, that is only a beautiful side effect, and a bridge to
engage people
> in the affairs of the client - and more often simultaneously in
their own
> working conditions.
>
> I cannot understand the disinterest of many open space
facilitators towards
> the outcome and its linkage with the system of the client.
>
> That, in my eyes, is also the reason for the disinterest towards
optimal
> forms of recording the outcome - and as a visual facilitator I of
course
> propagate a visual form of protocol.
>
> The discussions in the os list are mainly conducted with the back
to the
> clients, and that is a pity.
>
>
>
>
>
> mit freundlichen Grüßen
> best regards
>
> Reinhard Kuchenmüller
>
> VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE
>
> tel. +39-0566 88929
> www.visuelle-protokolle.de
> ________________________________________
> Von: OSLIST [osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] im Auftrag von Artur
Silva
> [arturfsi...@yahoo.com]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Juni 2009 18:25
> An: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
> Betreff: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?
>
> Larry:
>
> I am sorry but only today I had the time to answer you.
>
> We certainly need foundations or principles to Open Space.
>
> But I prefer the word "foundations" instead of "principles"
because, due to
> the man of the hat, this word is connected forever (only) with
"the 4
> principles". And I think that that there are other principles
(foundations)
> as important as, or even more important than, the 4 so called
principles.
>
> Indeed I think (sorry Harrison) that the expression "The 4
principles" was
> badly chosen.
>
> Because it they are "what always happens" they are not principles
at all.
> And because we think that we must state the principles in the
beginning of
> every session (I myself to that the majority o the times - but not
always")
> and I am more and more convinced that they are useless. You can
state them
> or nor, and the same things will occur. They are probably "one
less thing to
> do/state".
>
> But there are other principles or foundations that are essential,
in the
> sense that if they are not present different things will happen.
>
> In the discussion I opened in our wiki some years ago I proposed the
> following:
>
> 3. I would suggest, as HO wrote in the old User’s Guide, that OST
begins
> with:
>
> * A THEME that is compelling enough, but also general and open
enough to
> let people dream about and
> * A GROUP OF COMMITED PEOPLE (reason for the presences to be
almost
> always voluntary)
> * Enough DIVERSITY in the group
> 4. To those foundations one can add others that are generally
accepted by
> all practitioners:
>
> * The CIRCLE (even if, in some cases, some argue that a
"virtual circle"
> will do)
> * The Bulletin Board
> * The Market Place
> * The "law of two feet" (one of the most, if not the most
important
> feature, from where butterflies and bumblebees "germinate" and many
> conflicts "evaporate")
> * The "four principles" (as I have promised ;-)
>
> (http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST)
>
> If I were to rewrite this today, I would surely suppress the last
line. But
> all the other "foundations" (including the law of two feet) are
essential.
> If you suppress one of them you will have a meeting; but not,
IMHO, an OST
> meeting. But we may not talk at all about the "4 principles" and
everything
> will happen as usual.
>
> Best regrsds to all
>
> Artur
>
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Larry Peterson <la...@spiritedorg.com> wrote:
>
> From: Larry Peterson <la...@spiritedorg.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?
> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
> Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 5:22 PM
>
> Maybe a “foundation” is another word for how I often describe the
> “principles”. I encourage people, when I open a space, to make some
> assumptions about the gathering to assume what are stated as
principles and
> to act on that basis during the event. I think these only become
“assumed”
> after some evolution of consciousness and I don’t experience most
folks in
> organizations being there. I think it is important to articulate
them, to
> influence the “social construction” of the boundaries of the OST
event along
> with the most important part – the focus question or theme. Yep,
it may be
> a bit of ritualized behaviour but I think it helps increase the
> possibilities what will emerge in the self-organizing process that
will
> happen anyway. Besides, I (we as facilitators) are one of the
“selves” in
> the self-organization.
>
> Larry
>
>
> Larry Peterson & Associates in Transformation
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>
>
> From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of
Artur
> Silva
> Sent: May-27-09 5:54 PM
> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
> Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?
>
> Harrison, Larry and all:
>
> I am afraid that I continue to read only the messages from this
list from
> time to time...
>
> Today, I read this answer from Harrison to a reply from Larry to
an original
> comment by Harrison. The 3 messages referred are listed below, and
I ask you
> to first read the parts of those messages that I have transformed
in bold.
>
> (...) Thanks for having done that ;-)
>
> Now, I am happy that Harrison agrees that "the 4 principles and
one law are
> neither laws nor principles actually" and that there will come a
day when
> The Law and The Principles can be assigned to that wonderful
status of “One
> more thing not to do.”
>
> But Larry commented, very wisely as usual, about the importance of
some form
> of “boundaries” or “container” for self-organization.
>
> So, maybe it is the appropriate time to reintroduce a discussion
that I have
> tried to introduce many moons ago, about what are the foundations
of OST.
>
> I mean,
>
> 1) if the principles are not "principles" after all, but only what
always
> happens, and eventually even "one more thing not to do" (and I
remember you
> that I have done some OST experiments without reference to the
Principles -
> and all went well as usual), but
>
> 2) Some form of boundary or container is needed
>
> where this boundary or container does comes from?
>
> I have proposed to call that the "foundations" (not principles) of
OST and
> proposed some ideas (that are only preliminary ideas) I would like
to read
> (again) your opinions about.
>
> You can found my (preliminary) proposals, of some time ago, here
> http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST
>
> and here
>
> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0401&L=oslist&P=R23925&I=-3&;
> X=6543D44B5D0A7C3BC4&Y=arturfsilva%40yahoo.com.
>
> Looking forward to hear from you all
>
> Warn regards from a warm night in Lisbon
>
> Artur
>
> ------
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 5/27/09, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> From: Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST
> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 7:23 AM
> Right on Larry – and I found a very curious and embarrassing typo
in my
> small piece. I said, “They (the Principles and the Law) are
descriptive as
> opposed to descriptive.” I meant to say,”They are descriptive as
opposed to
> prescriptive.” Point is neither the Law nor the Principles tell
you what to
> do – they simply alert everybody to what will be taking place no
matter
> what. I think that is a useful function, but it really doesn’t
change a
> thing. In short – there will come a day when The Law and The
Principles can
> be assigned to that wonderful status of “One more thing not to do.”
>
> Harrison
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
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>
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>
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of
Larry
> Peterson
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:44 AM
> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
> Subject: Re: Anti Laws of OST
>
> For me, there is more sense in the “Principles and Law” than non-
sense.
> Stewart Kauffman explores the importance of some form of
“boundaries” or
> “container” for self-organization, particularly that of cells. He
believes
> (with strong scientific evidence) that real physical work only
gets done
> within some “boundaries” or it dissipates. Cells, he asserts, co-
create
> their “boundaries” with their environment through self-organizing
> relationships in every moment. The boundaries are permeable,
constructs,
> open to interchange with their environment. (No such thing as a
closed
> system!)
>
> Harrison, I believe you have articulated a set of socially
constructed
> permeable “boundaries” for enhancing human self-organization –
including the
> focus/theme, principles and law. These set a temporary set of
“boundaries”
> or a “container” both focused and open that change the perceived
conditions
> for self-organization at an event or meeting. Self-organization is
> happening all the time, in every moment. Our mental maps (in
practice) and
> feelings shape what we do as we self-organize – what topics we
propose and
> who we connect to. Are they necessary for self-organization (Open
Space) –
> no, it is happening all the time as order emerges. Do they (or
other
> similar statements about the social framework for our self-
organizing) help
> people to self-organize in exciting and creative ways? I think so.
>
> Larry
>
>
> Larry Peterson & Associates in Transformation
> Toronto, Ontario, Canada
> la...@spiritedorg.com<http://us.mc546.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=larry@spi
> ritedorg.com> 416.653.4829
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>
>
> From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of
Harrison
> Owen
> Sent: May-25-09 2:59 PM
> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
> Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST
>
> Just to render the whole thing non-sensical, the 4 principles and
one law
> are neither laws nor principles actually. To be honest they are
just my (and
> others’) observations of what seemed to be happening in any case.
In a word
> they are descriptive as opposed to descriptive – You could say it
is all a
> joke. Rather like “technology” in the phrase Open Space
Technology. The
> joke, however turned out to be outrageously funny – because
somehow or
> another truth broke through. We are in serious trouble! Everybody
knows that
> what happens in Open Space simply can’t happen. Unfortunately it
does – and
> that makes a joke out of a whole mess of other stuff – like most
of what we
> think we know about meetings, the management of meetings, and
management
> itself. Double trouble!!
>
> Harrison
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
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