And for what it is worth... from here this is part of growing, absorbing new technology and finding new ways of working..I admire fierceness and care in a debate.
The thing that stung most was the comment about being deaf; it seemed as though it was meant as an insult? I couldn't see that as an insult, just showing that perhaps a different language or means of communcation might be needed? S On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Tree Fitzpatrick < [email protected]> wrote: > For what it is worth, I experience Kaliya's comments as powerful, even > courageous efforts to open space. > > For what it is worth, I experience Michael's comments as name-calling, > denigrating, invalidating, dishonoring. I find myself wishing he would make > less attack statements and more 'I' statements, telling us what he thinks > and feels without attacking others shared thoughts and feelings. > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Karen Sella <[email protected]>wrote: > >> For what it's worth, I experienced all the comments from Michael and >> others >> as adding useful perspectives to the conversation--not invalidating or >> dishonoring... just sharing yet another perspective. >> >> Warmly, >> Karen >> >> >> >> Karen Sella >> Coaching: www.luminacoaching.com >> Consulting: www.integralventures.com >> Blog: www.lumina.typepad.com >> Phone: 1.206.780.2998 >> Skype: karensella >> >> >> lumina fr. L. light, air, opening... >> >> >> >> The information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential >> and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any >> dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you >> think >> that you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by >> reply and delete the message and any attachments. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kathie >> Wallace >> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:10 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [OSLIST] re honouring each other >> >> Hi Everyone, >> I have been following this community for a while and will soon start >> sharing info. Many thanks for all the enlivening info. I am grateful. >> I feel the need to speak in response to Michael's comments re Kaliya's >> thoughts. >> OST is about staying open and positive and welcoming of all perspectives >> and ideas, as I experience it. Critiquing and judging and saying "no" to >> ideas stops the new, constantly self-emerging outflowing of ideas that is >> creating a continual shared meaning among us all that excites me to no >> end. >> >> All of Kaliya's ideas are valid. >> >> Michael, may I suggest you own your own ideas more powerfully by using >> phrases like "in my opinion" or using the pronoun "I" rather than "you" >> when you share your own ideas. >> >> ...and on with the OST dance, >> >> Sincerely, >> Kathie Wallace >> Vancouver, BC, Canada >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------ >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of [email protected]: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> >> * >> * >> ========================================================== >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------ >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, >> view the archives of [email protected]: >> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html >> >> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: >> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist >> > > > > -- > Love rays, > Tree Fitzpatrick (check out my new address) > > > . . . the great and incalculable grace of love, which says, with Augustine, > "I want you to be," without being able to give any particular reason for > such supreme and unsurpassable affirmation. -- Hannah Arendt > > 2175 Kittredge St Apt 615 > Berkeley, CA 94704 > 510-665-4825 > * * ========================================================== > [email protected] ------------------------------ To > subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of > [email protected]: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about > OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist -- Sian Prime 07979634426 * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected]: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
