In other words I shall quote you Harrison 

"Be the space you wish to see in the world!" : Harrison Owen 

Love 

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On 11 Dec 2011, at 10:44, Harrison Owen <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bernard – Very thoughtful and well done! Thank you!! And a further note on 
> space. I would agree that having sufficient break out space is important, but 
> I think that “sufficient” is always in the eyes of the beholder. Odd way of 
> talking, I guess – but we have all run into situations where there was plenty 
> of square feet/meters – but somehow it seemed cramped (a boring party). As 
> well as the reverse – everybody was packed together, but somehow there was 
> plenty of “room” (a cheerful night at the pub). My take is that space is much 
> more a matter of feeling than physics.
>  
> I have certainly seen this operational in multiple OST’s. I think of those 
> times when the main room was so cramped, or worse, shaped like a bowling 
> alley – and everybody was sitting on top of each other. As for the “break 
> out” spaces… BUT it all worked magnificently.  And the question is naturally, 
> “How come?”
>  
> Part of it may be cultural dispositions towards large and small spaces. 
> People raised in our far west (Plains states) feel cramped if they can see 
> another person – miles away. By contrast, Italians (some of my best friends) 
> get so close that I, as an American, feel more than a little claustrophobic. 
> Were I to have said something (I wouldn’t) my friends would have been hurt. 
> Something about not liking “their space” I guess. J
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> When it comes to Open Space, I think there may be something else operative – 
> which is what we as the facilitator bring to the party. If our space is fully 
> open (really present and clear of obstructions), I suspect that can and does 
> establish a sense of “spaciousness” which has nothing to do with square 
> footage. By the same token if we come from a place of closed personal space – 
> we are thinking about all the things we should be doing, worrying about the 
> size of the venue, contemplating next week’s assignment, the initial 
> “spaciousness” can be cut by quantum factors. Maybe?
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] Why I Actually Like Calling it "The Law of Two Feet"
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> Dear Peggy and all
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> I fully agree to your YING/YANG interpretation of these two aspects. 
> And when I read, what you wrote, I walked mentally back to my old 
> "politically radical times". In spring of 1976, a big area in Vienna/Austria, 
> that had been used as "Auslandsschlachthof" (forein imports slaughterhouse) 
> by the municipal services was about to be sold to a consortium of garment 
> importers. We thought, we need a real good place for the culture of the young 
> people and - inspired by Freetown Kristiania in Denmark - we occupied the 
> area and the Viennese ARENA was born. 
>  
> For months an unbelievable diversity of groups and activities met there and 
> did wonderful things. We had the bikers club of the Simmeringer (low income 
> area in Vienna) Buam (boys) there, lots of cultural events, even Leonard 
> Cohen passed by and sang for free, there were a children house and a social 
> service, lots of guests from outside coming for concerts and strolling 
> through the ARENA, there was upper and lower class, foreigners like the 
> "Collegium Hungaricum" (at times of the iron curton, do not forget that). We 
> had a system of working groups and a plenary. Decisions taken by both. 
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> And it was all joyful and peaceful.
> In the end, too much money was involved.  The city sold the 
> Auslandsschlachthof and offered some petty area nearby for cultural events 
> (still being called ARENA WIEN, but something completely different). We went 
> out without violence but a big "ARENA funeral" walked through the town. And 
> it was over.
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> I was very young then, a student and although having done a good (small) 
> group dynamics trainer training at Vienna University of Sociology before, I 
> simply could not understand, why this all had worked. Well, as the co-founder 
> of the first free school for 10-15 year old pupils, I had some clues that 
> getting rid of the usual "everyday trance" was an important factor, but was 
> still unable to discriminate between the pre-conditions for situations where 
> it worked (like ARENA, free schools, some undogmatic leftist political 
> events....) and when it did not work (IT being high diversity, time pressure, 
> lots of conflicts around,....)
>  
> For years, even centuries that followed a part of my studies was dedicated to 
> understand exactly this: 
> WHY HAD IT WORKED?
>  
> I continued my learning about groups and organizations. I learned more about 
> large group dynamics, facilitated learning workshops, became more and more 
> experienced in refined facilitation techniques, etc. 
>  
> But this only increased my impression that nobody could give me a 
> comprehensive explanation. 
> And that theoretically (especially large group theory - wise) it COULD NOT 
> HAVE WORKED.
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> Around 1987 I first heard about something called OPEN SPACE. Nothing very 
> detailed but specific enough to hear about the law of the two feet and the 
> resistance to predefine what the participates would deal with.
> So without further ado I just tried it at the final event of a district 
> development project at Cape Verde Island (where I worked at that period in 
> time). All stakeholders of the project were invited. With amazing process and 
> results.
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> Some years later, I was lucky and could learn from Harrison how to do it 
> properly and hear more about the knots and bolts.
>  
> And it was clear. ARENA had been one of these spontaneous, not prepared, OPEN 
> SPACES that happened again and again in the world.
>  
> And when I was invited to talk at the Pankahyttn (Punks Hut) in Vienna last 
> year  (the Pankahyttn is itself a newly occupied - small - space in VIENNA 
> town), it was this learning I could offer:
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> ARENA Wien had worked because the LAW of TWO FEET had been appliable.
> 1) by the non-rules of ARENA
> 2) by the enormous space we had, so each of the groups and sub-groups could 
> occupy their own space, come out, go back...
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> And it was applied, not as a rule, but as a natural thing under these 
> conditions. 
> And the de-facto-emergenc of the OS principles had then been a simple 
> consequence in the ARENA context.
> (The fifth law was not yet formulated last year, so I could only say: "it was 
> not an OPEN SPACE in the sense of OST, but still, the OS spirit was there")
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> And that is the reason why I post this here (in fact it's a small point and 
> nearly a truism):
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> It is true that the YING/YANG of the law of the two feet allows such things 
> to happen. 
> But at a theoretical level we should not forget 
> that there exists a physical pre-condition: 
> ENOUGH BREAK-OUT SPACE
> So that the (conflicting) groups and individuals can get out of each others 
> way
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> If there is not enough physical space available
> the law is not appliable
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> Am 11.12.2011 um 04:17 schrieb Peggy Holman:
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> I just read through several months of OSlist messages and am picking up this 
> old thread because it inspires me to tell a story.
>  
> Phelim, like others, I like your naming the movement "toward" and "away" in 
> the Law of Two Feet.  
>  
> When I introduce the Law of Two Feet, I speak of these dynamics because of an 
> exchange I had the privilege to witness shortly after I ran into Open Space.
>  
> It was a conversation between the two people who have most influenced my 
> thinking and practice of opening space: Harrison (of course) and Anne 
> Stadler.  For those who don't know Anne, she has been involved with Open 
> Space since the OS in Goa India.  I think that was in 1989.  Shortly after 
> that trip, Anne, who was a TV producer at the time invited Harrison to make 
> the first video on Open Space Technology, called Learning in Open Space.  I'm 
> not positive about this, but I think Harrison and Anne then offered the first 
> OST workshops.
>  
> Anyway, a few years after that, probably around 1996, during a trip to 
> Seattle, Anne and Harrison were talking about the Law of 2 Feet.  Harrison 
> spoke of it as a safety valve.  He said something similar to this OSlist 
> message by him from Nov. 24, 2001 [I put some text in bold]:
>  
> ... I would guess that there are situations where a more active role might be 
> required, but I have never run into one. Even when the level of conflict is 
> very high and the issues are old and deep. For example, in South Africa in 
> the days shortly after Mendela's release from prison we  did Open Spaces with 
> such folks as Zulus, Hausa, Afrikaners -- all together, and no problem. I 
> have often wondered why this is true, and my best guess is that The Law of 
> Two Feet provides the needed "safety-valve"  Folks come together because they 
> want to solve some issues. At the same time I think it to be true that nobody 
> (save for a few pathological types) really like to blow their cool, so to 
> speak. The desire to solve the issue brings them together, and the Law 
> enables each individual to judge when they need a walk around the block to 
> "cool off." I have seen this lots of time, and never seen it to fail.
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> That made sense to me!  Then Anne talked about the Law of Two Feet as a 
> reminder to stand on your two feet for what you believe in. (Unfortunately, I 
> don't have a comparable "in her own words" message.)
>  
> As I listened to their exchange, all I could think was, "they're both right!" 
>  I had a sense that between them, Harrison and Anne had expressed the yin and 
> yang of the law.  Sometimes the ability to walk away and cool off is useful.  
> And at other times, remembering the importance of taking a stand is what's 
> called for.  
>  
> That conversation influenced how I've opened space ever since.  When I 
> introduce the Law of Two Feet, I talk about these two actions.  
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> Sounds a lot like moving towards and moving away, yes?
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> appreciatively,
> Peggy
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> On Oct 31, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Caitlin Frost wrote:
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> Thanks for articulating this Phelim.
>  
> For me the Law of Two Feet is definitely about movement.  Nice to notice the 
> "toward" in balance to the "away from" - and underneath that for me is just 
> the invitation to wise movement to follow my flow - to open space for that 
> for everyone.
>  
> And my practice can be in noticing what would stop me from moving when that 
> feels right, and working with that.  I can see how that serves me in life and 
> work both in and beyond Open Space.
>  
> Your post here sharpened my ear for the phrasing - and in two recent Open 
> Space openings I heard more clearly the speaking of this law as "away from" 
> without the equal balance of towards.  I will be more mindful now - when 
> offering it myself, or teaching it to others.
>  
> I like to think of it like I sometimes see little kids moving around.  Not 
> even needing a story to explain why they are moving.  There doesn't have to 
> be a reason or problem to leave - they just go when they are ready and find 
> themselves in the next place.  Eager faced - 'hey what's happening over here?'
>  
> Thanks for offering some attention here.
>  
> Caitlin.
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> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Phelim <[email protected]> wrote:
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> In open space technology there is only one law. It’s know as “The Law of Two 
> Feet” Some people don’t like calling it this and it is objected to on the 
> grounds of diversity/disability issues. So it gets re-christened “The law of 
> mobility”. However, I think it’s a very useful metaphor and as such think all 
> should have access to it. However that’s not what I want to talk about today.
> 
> Sometimes people concentrate on “The law of two feet.” as being about leaving 
> somewhere: it might be a session, a person who is dominating a conversation, 
> a topic that goes off somewhere you are no longer interested in, all these 
> are things one might want to move away from.
> 
> However it’s good to remember it’s a law of TWO feet. Let’s say the first 
> foot or step is away from. Then the second step in terms of our metaphor 
> could be what we are moving towards. If the emphasis is just on the first 
> step the potential energy or even an awareness of the second step can get 
> overwhelmed. Veiled in issues of possibility or social politeness.
> 
> So remember both aspects of the Law: “away from” but also “towards”. Where 
> have you already taken yourself or your mind? Where inside yourself have you 
> already taken your next step somewhere else?
> 
> This is a useful thing to remember not least because it might support you 
> over the threshold of your imagined impoliteness or arrogance when you find 
> yourself worrying about the fact that you are leaving somewhere and being 
> rude.
> 
> Maybe if you focus on where you are going to or where your presence has 
> gone.. Then you could realise it might be rude to have already left a less 
> than present self amongst the group. Or perhaps it’s even arrogant to assume 
> people will even notice that you left.
> 
> So whether you are attending to “The Law of Two Feet” or “The Law of 
> Mobility: Focus on the TWO feet of the dynamic and as Hal and Sidra Stone say 
> “Sweat the choice”.
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