Hey Michael, Not sure about the bit where you have to sleep with the sponsor twice before a decision is made!!
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If it is urgent please call me on 07956 187298. _____________________________________ www.improbable.co.uk @openspacer On 28 Jun 2012, at 13:50, Michael M Pannwitz <mmpa...@boscop.org> wrote: > Dear Eleder, > great you asked, I did not report on my procedere clear enough. > Here it goes: > For the contact meeting where you assist the sponsor in finding out whether > prerequisites for Open Space are met it is important to have the sponsor(s) > (decider(s)) present (all the people that have a say in whether this approach > should be followed)... > When it is clear that OST is the way to go the sponsor installs a Planning > Group which decides on Theme, Invitation etc. and it should be composed of > people that the sponsor is interested in having at the event (this in a way > will represent the system but only at that point in time, the Planning Group > will come up with a more complete picture of the whole system which is > important for the invitation). For healthcare you might try to have people > from hospitals, the insurance business, patients, doctors, nurses, midwives, > outreach people, people from local government, scientists, pharmacies,... the > list can become very long...in my experience there have been Planning Groups > of 6 all the way up to 35. > At the contact meeting there might be 3 to 8 people, usually around 5... this > is not a contract meeting just a service for the sponsor to find out (and for > me as facilitator also to find out) whether he wants to go with ost. Even if > I am approached by a sponsor with the clear message that he wants OST, I > suggest/insists on a contact meeting (usually 1,5 hours) to get the > prerequisites discussion (in a way the sponsor has to convince me that the > prerequisites are in place or how they can be met). > I charge no fee for the contact meeting (just reimbursment for travel etc.) > and suggest that no decision is taken at the meeting itself but that both > sponsor and I sleep twice and then have the next contact... > > Good luck with the healthcare project! > > Cheers > > mmp > > > On 28.06.2012 14:23, Eleder_BuM wrote: >> Hi, I´m liking to follow this conversation. Thanks all! >> >> I share Robyn´s concern with /Under-representation of women/ (and >> probably other collectives if we refine our observation)... >> >> Another issue: I just received an invitation to facilitate an Open Space >> on healthcare and this conversation makes me doubt.. >> >> ...do we really need to meet a "small group that would represent the >> whole system" for the first meeting or >> >> ...would the meeting with the sponsor(s)/the one(s) who cares be enough >> to decide if Open Space suits, fix the theme and draft the invitation >> (and sure, then try through the invitation process to attract the >> participation of the whole system)? >> * >> *Eleder >> www.burumapak.blogspot.com <http://www.burumapak.blogspot.com/> (eu) >> @Eleder_BuM <http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM> (Twitter) >> www.flowandshow.blogspot.com (en) <http://www.flowandshow.blogspot.com/> >> >> >> >> >> 2012/6/27 Michael M Pannwitz <mmpa...@boscop.org >> <mailto:mmpa...@boscop.org>> >> >> I would ask that powerful sponsor to invite me to a contact meeting >> with a small group that would represent the whole system he is >> inviting (an actress, a statesman, an artist, a criminal, someone >> dead for a long time, someone recently died, a scientist...) to see >> whether the 5 preconditions for an open space are in place. >> >> Once that were clear and they still want me as facilitator, I would >> ask the sponsor to convene a planning meeting to come to an >> agreement on such important matters as the "theme" (I certainly >> would not propose one as I never do) and to draft an invitation >> (which I certainly would not offer to draft myself as I never do). >> >> About my fee? 0,0001% of the damage or good the participants were >> responsible for in their lives. >> >> cheers >> mmp >> >> >> On 26.06.2012 21:51, JL Walker wrote: >> >> And since I have been taking flight with my participation in >> this list, >> let me now invite everyone to participate in the following playful >> exercise (which I think could be interesting). >> >> First of all please go to the following page: >> http://cliptank.com/ab/__PeoplePainting2.htm >> <http://cliptank.com/ab/PeoplePainting2.htm> >> >> (Take note that you can place the cursor on each person for >> knowing who >> is, and that if you want you can make click on it for being >> redirected >> to its biography in Wikipedia). >> >> Imagine now that you are contacted by a magical and powerful sponsor >> that can makes all these people to be alive again and that ask >> it to you >> to facilitate an open space with all them. >> >> First, you would accept to do it? >> >> Second, how do you think the invitation and the theme (or >> question) for >> this incredible event should be? >> >> I'm eager to hear your responses. >> >> Juan Luis >> >> www.cdic.cl <http://www.cdic.cl> <http://www.cdic.cl> >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> OSList-leave@lists.__openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> >> http://lists.openspacetech.__org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-__openspacetech.org >> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >> >> >> -- >> Michael M Pannwitz, boscop eg >> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany >> ++49-30-772 8000 >> mmpa...@boscop.org <mailto:mmpa...@boscop.org> www.boscop.org >> <http://www.boscop.org> >> >> >> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 390 resident >> Open Space Workers in 67 countries working in a total of 143 >> countries worldwide: www.openspaceworldmap.org >> <http://www.openspaceworldmap.org> >> _________________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> OSList-leave@lists.__openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.__org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-__openspacetech.org >> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> > > -- > Michael M Pannwitz, boscop eg > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany > ++49-30-772 8000 > mmpa...@boscop.org www.boscop.org > > > Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 390 resident Open Space > Workers in 67 countries working in a total of 143 countries worldwide: > www.openspaceworldmap.org > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
