I like your idea of broadening the inviters. My experience is that people are 
very excited after a well facilitated pre-meeting - so they are eager to spread 
the word…
Another idea is to start with an evening of storytelling - to invite all the 
juicy things to come out in a structured and respectful way - using a talking 
stick. Then to go on into Open Space…
Wishing you all the best of luck!
Thomas Herrmann

30 maj 2013 kl. 16:56 skrev Eleder_BuM <[email protected]>:

> 
> 
> 
> 2013/5/29 Harrison Owen <[email protected]>
> Eleder – A painful pickle for sure! This may be one of those cases where that 
> old favorite medicine of experienced physicians is the only cure: “Tincture 
> of Time.” But I think there may be some alternatives, as well as a few 
> thoughts about why your efforts to date have been less than productive.
> 
>  
> 
> Taking these in reverse order – Why didn’t things work out as you hoped? Or 
> more immediately, why didn’t the people come? The obvious and simple answer 
> is that they didn’t care to. We have learned, I think, that good things 
> happen when people share a common concern. There may be a large diversity of 
> opinions relative to that concern, but they never-the-less care (hopefully 
> with some passion) about a shared concern. That “shared concern” is the 
> natural focal point for any Open Space and represents the core of the theme.
> 
> 
> Hi Harrison, if I pay attention to the person of the (more or less organised) 
> group that didn´t come and spoke with me long, the issue (the way to make 
> decissions in the town,...) was really interesting for them. It is, in fact, 
> the origin of the big trouble. 
> 
> But there is now strong pain, and they would no way like to gather in such a 
> space. During last years meetings have been hotter and hotter. Disrespect, 
> loud voices, even curses  appeared, seemingly.
> 
> Of course, there must be other subjects that are now more important and may 
> attract a more diverse representation of the town. This would, sure, help the 
> cure. 
> 
> So your sage words inspire me some kind of strategy...
> Take time to listen deeply to several people of  the town, the more diverse 
> the group, the better.
> Find out which their really hot subjects are, the ones that everybody would 
> like to spend a day speaking and acting about.
> Get many people involved in the invitation process. Invite them to "invite 
> personally this one that otherwise would sure not come,...". The closing 
> circle of the last Open Space session showed some people that are really 
> feeling upset for the ausents beeing not there,...
> Open space on those "real business issues", for the issue and  specially for 
> the cure and the reinforcement of trust,...
> Michael, you say,...
> "if they in fact meet and follow the simple design I have described on this 
> list."
> 
> could you tell us more about  this design?
> 
> Thanks so much for your attention,
> 
> Eleder
> 
>  
> 
> I think this may be the nub of your problem, because if I read you right, the 
> theme of your Open Space was one thing that a majority of the people, 
> particularly those you really wanted to come, simply had no interest in 
> discussing. (“Open Space on the ways to include everybody´s opinions in the 
> decisions of the small town.”). You are doubtless correct in thinking that 
> this issue is worthy of discussion – but that makes it YOUR issue, and not 
> necessarily theirs. And if it ain’t “theirs” they won’t care – and absent 
> caring, they won’t come. Which turned out to be the case.
> 
>  
> 
> What about alternatives? If I heard you correctly, there is a large amount of 
> pain and distrust amongst the people – which may be justified or not – but it 
> is there and destructive. Some people may call it a “communication problem” 
> which is rather a mild way of talking about a very difficult situation – 
> which definitely requires a “fix.” But one of the things I have learned 
> (painfully) over the years is that “fixing a communication problem” is rarely 
> if ever (“never.” in my experience) accomplished by talking about it. The 
> discussions tend to be puerile and abstract except for people interested in 
> communications (“process” people like us). Most people, I find don’t want to 
> “talk” about “communications”… but they do want and need to communicate. So 
> it is more about “doing” and not so much about process and techniques. I know 
> this statement will not sit well with those invested in all those tools – but 
> it is my constant experience that when people truly care about a common issue 
> and need to communicate to get something done – they do it with excellence.  
> That of course is the lesson of every significant Open Space I have ever 
> seen. Happens every time PROVIDED the focal issue is a matter of serious, 
> common concern – what I often call a “real business issue.”
> 
>  
> 
> I think there may be some strategy here for your situation. First off – Give 
> up trying to invite people to talk about communication. A friend of mine used 
> to say that such efforts were pretty much like trying to teach a pig to sing: 
> It sounds terrible and annoys the pig! Instead – look for an issue, or 
> multiple issues, where there is genuine, existential, practical, common 
> concern. Potholes in the roads, sewage treatment, education for the kids, 
> help with the old folks, -- and then invite those who care to come. And they 
> will. Chances are good that they will make some positive steps on the issues 
> of their concern – but more important for your concern THEY WILL COMMUNICATE. 
> They will build mutual trust and respect if they care to do that.
> 
>  
> 
> It is also possible, of course, that the people involved really are 
> miserable, hateful creatures, unworthy of any trust or respect. I think that 
> is quite unlikely, but it could be true. And if so, the only sane approach is 
> to leave town and go and do something useful (Law of two Feet). But I 
> seriously doubt you are there yet – Much more likely the people involved are 
> fundamentally good hearts needing only an invitation to engage issues they 
> really care about.
> 
>  
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> Harrison
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> Subject: [OSList] What to do when a conflicted and important part is missing?
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> After the second Open Space (this one 4 hours one) in the small self-managed 
> village (some messages before on this list, under " How do we invite key and 
> high conflicted people?" subject), a main question remains inside me.
> 
> What would you do if a conflicted and important part of the community is 
> missing and has no intention to join & the promotors seem unable to invite 
> properly? #InvitationProcess #Conflict #OpenSpace
> 
> 
> Some weeks ago we had an Open Space on the ways to include everybody´s 
> opinions in the decissions of the small town. A big part of the villagers 
> said in advance that they would no way come. They feel very hurted about some 
> quarrels last years in the council commitees,...
> 
> The "other side" (the own in power, the majority and the promotors of these 
> events) is also very hurted. 
> 
> The invitation process should be in this case, I think, very long, patient, 
> cautious, loving,... and they don´t seem to be able to do the job now.
> 
> Does it make any sense to do another OS with this feeling of impotence?
> 
> Should we try some conflict resolution before inviting for another OS?
> 
> Or maybe such an invitation process (very long, patient, cautious, 
> loving,...) and a long 1´5 or 2´5 day OS would be the good "cure"? 
> 
> Should the facilitator lead the invitation process, in an additional mediator 
> role?
> 
> I´m quite lost in the process, letting go, and present all the time, with 
> this duty on the back of my mind,...
> 
> 
> Enjoy life!
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