Hi Dan,

Will this call be recorded? I was on the last call and this Monday night I 
can't be there. The topic that really interested me in all this is what other 
stuff do I need to know or learn. If the call is recorded, I would love to 
listen to it some time next week. Please let me know if this sounds feasible. 

Thanks!

Esther

Le 2013-10-19 à 10:20, Daniel Mezick a écrit :

> Greetings,
> 
> You are cordially invited to participate in the next "Agile for OST 
> Facilitators" call! We had 17 folks on Call#1 (see below)
> 
> The idea is it answer questions about Agile adoptions so that OST folks can 
> more fully understand the Open Agile Adoption (with Open Space) technique.
> 
> The call is limited to just 25 persons, so please note that your registration 
> is an explicit commitment to attend. 
> 
> =======================================================
> Call #2: Agile for OST Facilitators Date: Monday October 28 2013 7PM EST
> ======================================================= 
> 
> Purpose of Call: Orient OST folks on Agile adoptions, and discuss using OST 
> in Agile Adoptions, including discussion of specific challenges and 
> opportunities.
> 
> 
> You can register here...
> 
> Registration Link:
> http://myaccount.maestroconference.com/conference/register/OGJUMYQ0FRQ67ZR
> 
> I hope to talk to you on the call!
> 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Dan
> www.OpenAgileAdoption.com
> 203 915 7248
> www.DanielMezick.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> =========================
> DETAILS ON NEXT CALL:
> ========================= 
> Call #2: 
> Agile for OST Facilitators 
> 
> Date: 
> Monday October 28 2013 7PM EST
> 
> Registration Link:
> http://myaccount.maestroconference.com/conference/register/OGJUMYQ0FRQ67ZR
> 
> Agenda: One Hour Call #2:
> 
> 0/ Quick Review: (05 mins)
> 
> 1/ Answer questions generated from Call#1 (25 mins)
> 
> 2/ Dialogue/New Questions (25 mins)
> 
> 3/ Deconvene/Summary (05 mins)
> 
> =========================
> 
> 
> Recap of Call#1 on 10/05/2013:
> 
> 1.    On Call#1, I suggested that the participants (new and existing) send 
> questions with the text "[AgileOST]" in the subject line, so I can collect, 
> list and answer your questions on the next call.
> 2.    We ended the Call#1 with a suggestion that every one participating 
> examine these docs:
> www.agilemanifesto.org
> http://www.agilemanifesto.org/principles.html
> https://www.scrum.org/Scrum-Guides
>  
> 
> =================================  
> CALL #2 Details
> =================================
>  
> Questions that have come in from Call#1 are listed below. 
> There are many interesting questions. 
> I plan to answer them on the next call on 10/28. 
> Senders of questions are not listed in the data. 
> I disclose these questions so you can see what is happening, and decide if 
> you want to opt-in to the call.
> The questions form the rough agenda; there will be a brief review at the 
> start. 
> You can use Call#2 as your entry point; there is no requirement to have been 
> on Call #1 to participate in Call#2.
> If you are new to the topic, consider examining the links Agile-related links 
> (above) to get oriented before the call. 
>  
> Q. About Open Agile Adoption:
> If the facilitator for the 1st OS is external to the organization (neutral as 
> oppose to an on-going 'coach'), why can that person not also facilitate the 
> 2nd OS? ...granted that it is also a good idea to pass on the learning of 
> opening space to someone internal if they can play comfortably that neutral 
> role among their peers.
>  
> Q. the question I have is about roles.  reading the scrum.org site, i see 
> different trainings for different roles.  it would be helpful to get a sort 
> of program, cuz i can't tell the players without a program.  there are a 
> bunch of folks sitting at computers, writing code, cobbling code, etc.  
> there's some project owner.  there are users.  and some others in between.  
> would help to know something about sizes of groups, training required for 
> different roles, languages used, and these sorts of details.
>  
>    I   Q.  I struggle with the notion that “agile has become mainstream, 
> while at the same time has a “85% failure” rate  - on the face of it this 
> seems like folly - why would any company want to adopt agile with such a poor 
> track record?
> 
> ·        Q. In the case of OAA where there has already been an attempt to 
> adopt agile (rescuing an adoptation), training in agile (scrum etc) will 
> already have taken place, but in the case where a unit goes straight into 
> agile via OAA (straight adaptation), when does the training take place?  
> Before the first Open Space, or between the two OS event (as part of 
> liminality)?
> 
> ·         Q. I was a little perplexed by the comment you made on OSList about 
> there being more ways to fail with Open Space in agile adoptions than to 
> succeed, this seems to put OST on a danger list.  Put differently, it seemed 
> to suggest that there is just one right way to run OST to be successful while 
> there are many wrong ways – what is not clear to me is what is that right way?
> 
> ·         Q. In our last teleconference you talked of “proceedings”, but it 
> was not clear to me what you meant by that (OS proceedings, agile 
> proceedings, other)?
> 
> ·         Q. At the last teleconference we also established that the follow 
> up after the first OST event is critical for success – but how will the 
> follow through be run, and more importantly who will be responsible for this 
> follow up?  (If it is the OST facilitator then I would have doubts as to 
> whether OST facilitators who are not also agile experts are really suitable 
> for OAA.)
> 
> ·       Q. If agile adoptions fail because they are mandated by senior 
> management, and if we manage to turn this around with your suggested OAA 
> approach using OST, this will surely also involve a certain degree of 
> transformation within senior management ranks (indeed it may lead to a new 
> kind of resistance at the top).  This in turn could lead to a negative 
> perception of OST itself.  Would you like to comment?
> 
> o   I say this because I see a parallel problem in lean adoptions which also 
> often don’t bring about expected results.  In lean this may partly be due to 
> mandating, but more often to either treating lean purely as a technical tool 
> (rather than a whole system) without the equivalent Japanese attention to 
> empowering the humans behind the system, or to very poor support and 
> commitment to lean from senior management.  This leads to lean being run more 
> like an add-on application rather than a whole new operating system.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/13/13 10:00 PM, Daniel Mezick wrote:
>> Friendly (last) Reminder regarding the call tomorrow, 7PM EST: 
>> 
>> "Agile for Open Space Facilitators". 
>> 
>> There is a minimum of 20 minutes for questions...probably more.
>> 
>> Hope you can make it!
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This is an invitation to signal interest in learning more about how Open 
>> Space can help Agile adoptions, and 
>> learn about the structure of the Agile industry, and
>> learn about the dynamics of the current Agile adoption situation, and
>> learn how Open Space can play in the Agile Space, and
>> learn more about Open Agile Adoption
>> 
>> There will be no marketing of anything whatsoever on this call. The intent 
>> is to offer a gift, to folks here who are skilled in OST, folks who may not 
>> have a programming/IT/software/Agile background. 
>> 
>> The date and time for the proposes conference call is: 
>> Monday, October 14 at 7PM EST 
>> 
>> Here is a starting agenda:
>> 
>> 1/ What is Agile? What is Agile coaching?
>> 2/ What are some of the special problems with Agile coaching and Agile 
>> adoptions?
>> 3/ How can Open Space help?
>> 4/ Can Open Space facilitators can be Agile coaches? Is this really 
>> possible? If so, what extra stuff do they need to know?
>> 5/ What is Open Agile Adoption, and why do I care? 
>> 6/ What next steps can I take to learn more about the Agile opportunity?
>> 
>> ======================================================
>> Event name and Topic: 
>> "Agile for Open Space Facilitators"
>> 
>> Date: 10/14 (Monday)
>> Time: 7PM EST
>> Duration: 1 hour
>> 
>> Registration Link:
>> http://myaccount.maestroconference.com/conference/register/H5KPHZNVZ5PSJ7XQ
>> 
>> Agenda:
>> Welcome OST Facilitators!
>> This is an overview of Agile and Agile adoption practices for Open Space 
>> Facilitators who are new to Agile, new to Agile adoptions and new to Agile 
>> coaching. The purpose of the call is orient skilled Open Space facilitators 
>> so that they can understand the dynamics of Agile adoptions and prepare to 
>> facilitate Open Space meetings during Agile adoptions as described at 
>> www.OpenAgileAdoption.com and the OSLIST
>> 
>> Schedule:
>> Minutes, Topic
>> 05, Intro
>> 15, Basic Agile ideas
>> 15, Agile Adoptions (see detail above)
>> 20, Questions and dialogue
>> 05, Summary and conclusion
>> ======================================================
>> 
>> On 10/11/13 11:14 AM, Daniel Mezick wrote:
>>> Hi, 
>>> 
>>> Monday 10/14 is the day when you can hop on an interesting, 1-hour, 
>>> educational conference call:
>>> 
>>> "Agile for Open Space Facilitators"
>>> 
>>> I promise it will be an excellent use of your time!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We will cover Agile as it pertains the use of Open Space in Agile 
>>> adoptions. 
>>> 
>>> Here is the registration link and related for the call on Monday. Signup is 
>>> very simple! I hope to see you there!
>>> 
>>> NOTE: The call is limited to 25 participants, so PLEASE register only if 
>>> you intend to be on the call. Thanks!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You can reach me as follows:
>>> 
>>> @DanMezick on Twitter
>>> 203 915 7248 
>>> d...@newtechusa.net
>>> 
>>> Note: 
>>> You may wish to browse www.OpenAgileAdoption.com in advance of this call.
>>> 
>>> ======================================================
>>> Event name and Topic: 
>>> "Agile for Open Space Facilitators"
>>> 
>>> Date: 10/14 (Monday)
>>> Time: 7PM EST
>>> Duration: 1 hour
>>> 
>>> Registration Link:
>>> http://myaccount.maestroconference.com/conference/register/H5KPHZNVZ5PSJ7XQ
>>> 
>>> Agenda:
>>> Welcome OST Facilitators!
>>> This is an overview of Agile and Agile adoption practices for Open Space 
>>> Facilitators who are new to Agile, new to Agile adoptions and new to Agile 
>>> coaching. The purpose of the call is orient skilled Open Space facilitators 
>>> so that they can understand the dynamics of Agile adoptions and prepare to 
>>> facilitate Open Space meetings during Agile adoptions as described at 
>>> www.OpenAgileAdoption.com and the OSLIST
>>> 
>>> Schedule:
>>> Minutes, Topic
>>> 05, Intro
>>> 15, Basic Agile ideas
>>> 15, Agile Adoptions (see detail below)
>>> 20, Questions and dialogue
>>> 05, Summary and conclusion
>>> ======================================================
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I hope to see you there!
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/21/13 12:44 PM, Tricia Chirumbole wrote:
>>>> Count me in Dan!
>>>>  
>>>> Thanks for all of your efforts and energy in encouraging this exciting 
>>>> melding of practices and communities.
>>>>  
>>>> Just became a Certified Scrum Master this week! :) woof! And launched my 
>>>> new practice that is OST + Scrum/Agile: Mojo Collaborative!
>>>>  
>>>> Best Wishes in Paris Dan!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Donna Read 
>>>> <donna.r...@managing4wellness.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi, Dan, I, too, would be interested.  Thanks for doing this.  Best, Donna
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 9:24, kath...@energyatplay.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Dan,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm interested in your offering. I'm just starting up an online learning 
>>>>> community at Microsoft that is about Adopting Agile for Content 
>>>>> Developers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kathryn Elliott
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> On 2013-09-19 10:59, Daniel Mezick wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is an invitation to signal interest in learning more about how Open 
>>>>>> Space can help Agile adoptions, and 
>>>>>> learn about the structure of the Agile industry, and
>>>>>> learn about the dynamics of the current Agile adoption situation, and
>>>>>> learn how Open Space can play in the Agile Space, and
>>>>>> learn more about Open Agile Adoption
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There will be no marketing of anything whatsoever on this call. The 
>>>>>> intent is to offer a gift, to folks here who are skilled in OST, folks 
>>>>>> who may not have a programming/IT/software/Agile background. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If there is enough interest from the OST community, I am ready, willing 
>>>>>> and able to arrange and conduct a short, structured phone conference to 
>>>>>> address these topics and facilitate some lively dialogue and Q&A around 
>>>>>> these topics.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The date and time for the proposes conference call is: 
>>>>>> Monday, October 14 at 7PM EST 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is a starting agenda:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1/ What is Agile? What is Agile coaching?
>>>>>> 2/ What are some of the special problems with Agile coaching and Agile 
>>>>>> adoptions?
>>>>>> 3/ How can Open Space help?
>>>>>> 4/ Can Open Space facilitators can be Agile coaches? Is this really 
>>>>>> possible? If so, what extra stuff do they need to know?
>>>>>> 5/ What is Open Agile Adoption, and why do I care? 
>>>>>> 6/ What next steps can I take to learn more about the Agile opportunity?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To signal interest:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 7/ Please add a brief note of interest to this thread, by replying to it
>>>>>> 8/ Send me an email (d...@newtechusa.net} with "OAA 10/14" in the 
>>>>>> message subject
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can visit www.OpenAgileAdoption.com if you want to investigate these 
>>>>>> topics a bit more in advance of responding. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You are invited to signal interest! Based on your feedback, I will know 
>>>>>> exactly what to do. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Will you reply by Monday 10/7, or sooner?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you and 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Daniel Mezick, President
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bio. Blog. Twitter. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Examine my new book:  The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Explore Agile Team Training and Coaching.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Explore the Agile Boston Community. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>> Bio. Blog. Twitter. 
>> Examine my new book:  The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager.
>> Explore Agile Team Training and Coaching.
>> Explore the Agile Boston Community. 
>> 
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> New Technology Solutions Inc.
> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
> Bio. Blog. Twitter. 
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> Explore Agile Team Training and Coaching.
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