June – “The focus of being present can at times be so exhausting!  Finding a 
balance is so important but in our fast paced, ever present technology world, I 
struggle with this.”

 

June, I think you have just put your finger on the nub of the issue: “I 
struggle with this.” If my own experience is any guide, becoming present is 
inversely related to the struggle thereof. In a word, I think you are working 
much too hard. Everybody will find their own way, but I find that when my sense 
of presence slips away, the antidote is quite simply, STOP! Close your eyes and 
breath slowly until the sensation of your flowing breath, in and out, simply 
washes all the trivia away. 

 

I understand this can be difficult in the midst of total chaos (a classroom, 
for example), but it is possible. And that possibility is enhanced if at some 
other time (before or after) you take a longer time to gently and freely do the 
same thing. It’s called practice. If you do that on some regular basis, I think 
you will find that when the  roof falls in and everything else seems in 
shambles... even then it is totally possible to restore you sense of center. It 
may only be an instant as the clock would measure it, but it is not about how 
long, but how deeply. Try it. Works for me.

 

Harrison  

 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [OSList] Being present & presence

 

Thank you to Harrison & David for this conversation that has peaked my 
attention.  Being present and having presence is key!   This does not relate 
specifically to OST but to my work in post-secondary.  Successful and effective 
teachers are present and have presence; how do we all get there and stay there 
100% of the time?!  And how can I help the students to be present when they are 
pulled in many directions as education asks so much of them?  

 

The focus of being present can at times be so exhausting!  Finding a balance is 
so important but in our fast paced, ever present technology world, I struggle 
with this.  

 

As a beginner in OST I will be mindful of being present & having presence.  

 

June

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada


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On 2014-04-22, at 9:30, "Harrison Owen" <[email protected]> wrote:

David said: “I'm curious about your hunch about why being totally present makes 
a difference.”

 

And David, I am curious about your use of the word “hunch.” Truth to tell, the 
power of Presence for the facilitator is one of the few things that I am 
totally certain of when it come to the facilitator’s effective role in Open 
Space. When the facilitator is really (totally) present, just about everything 
else that the facilitator may or may not do or say don’t make that much 
difference. 

 

And what, you might ask, is Presence? Doubtless there are a many answers as 
there are folks who think or talk about it, but for me it goes something like 
this...

 

I think we all know when we are not present – neatly caught in the phrase, 
“Here but not all there.” You know the syndrome. The present moment becomes 
virtually invisible, drowned in a fog of “might have beens,” “could have 
beens,” “ought to have beens.” We are so worried and/or involved in the past 
and the future that NOW is just about eliminated. No space.

 

At a practical level, this renders us virtually blind. And even with our best 
efforts, we find ourselves responding to just about everything except what is 
immediately in front of us. Such a condition is not conducive to  effective 
behavior under any circumstance, but in the unique situation of a facilitator 
in Open Space, I find it just takes you right out of the game.

 

Genuine Presence is a wonderful thing, not only for the person who achieves it, 
but also (and maybe equally) for anybody in the neighborhood. With presence 
comes deep awareness of our surroundings at all levels...mental, physical, 
spiritual. This is rich fare for whoever experiences it, but that richness is 
shared. I don’t like the image very much, but real presence is like a vacuum 
cleaner... drawing in, appreciating, becoming a deep witness of what 
transpires. The effects of this can be multiple, but for people in the presence 
of a Real Presence the experience is one of radical appreciation, acceptance... 
we might say love.

 

The image of the vacuum cleaner is really awkward, but it does capture my 
experience that Presence initiates a vacuum which creates massive space, 
available for the growth of the people in their power. And in Open Space that 
is my purpose, my job as facilitator. I think.

 

Harrison  

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 9:08 AM
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] Open Space and Boundaries

 

Harrison, 

 

Thanks for your response to this. I was serious.....as this seemed to be the 
obvious question to me. Your answer as always brings up deep complex issues in 
a rather straight forward manner.   

 

My experience beyond OS is that people (myself included) get stuck in patterns 
where they do not embrace their full power. I love the purpose you describe: " 
My purpose is to create an environment in which the people can experience their 
own power to the maximum and do things they never thought possible."  or your  

 

Outside of open space I find myself constantly at this boundary of doing some 
to bring people to the edge of leaping into the space of their own power and 
capability. Sometimes they leap, other times they don't. Your message here has 
been a helpful reminder and a clearer frame of the boundary. 

 

There is also another subtlety buried in your reply. Your described doing the 
above by " being totally present yet absolutely invisible".  I'm curious about 
your hunch about why being totally present makes a difference. 

 

Many thanks, 

 

David 

 

 

 

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Harrison Owen <[email protected]> wrote: 

David said -- “So I should do nothing........right?  or is my passion and 
caring to do a little bit ok?” 

 

David, I suspect something of a joke, but I think your question is important. 
At least it has always been important to me. Some long time ago, I recognized 
that if I empower you, you are in my power. And by the same token, whatever I 
do for you, you cannot, or do not need to do for yourself. It is true that some 
of us (most of us?) like to do things for each other, and I think that is 
wonderful. When somebody puts on a specially elegant party with close attention 
to every detail of guest comfort – that can be a thing of beauty. And if the 
martinis live up to the standards of everything else, I am all in! J

 

But it remains true, I think, that if I empower you, you are in my power. And 
whatever I do for you, you will not do for yourself.  There are clearly times 
and situations where our “doing” is needed, important, even critical. But there 
are equally other times – it all depends on the purpose or goals or situation.

 

So in the peculiar situation of facilitating an Open Space: Why do we do it? 
Doubtless each person will have to answer that one for themselves, but I am 
very clear why I take on the role of facilitator. My purpose is to create an 
environment in which the people can experience their own power to the maximum 
and do things they never thought possible. To achieve this objective, the 
people will need the most time/space available – which means that I need to 
fill up as little space/time as possible. Something about being totally present 
and absolutely invisible.

 

Sometimes I know that my fellows may have felt that I was being uncaring, 
particularly when I left people to struggle with an inability to express 
themselves fully, a difficulty with language, or even physical barriers. But 
what I discovered over and over, and over again is that people have a marvelous 
capacity to help each other, and further – that when they learn to help, or 
maybe even more importantly, ask for help... Everybody is stronger. 

 

So what do I do? As little as possible. And the reward has been to witness 
amazing growth.

 

Yes there are times when an emergent situation seemed to require a hand. But 
even in those situations I have found it useful to wait just a little bit 
longer than I felt comfortable, and more often than not a way was found, not of 
my doing.

 

And on other occasions, where I did sort of jump in, I was taught a lesson. I 
remember particularly an Open Space I did with the North West Regional Advisory 
Council of the AARP. Average age: well past 80. There was something like 150 in 
the group, and the discussions were fast, furious and definitely passionate. 
One particular lady, obviously well past 80, just happened to have posted THE 
ISSUE. I don’t remember what it was, but I caught up with her at the computers 
as she was writing her report. She had pages of flip chart paper, and clearly 
didn’t see too well. I think it may have been the first time she had confronted 
a computer, up close and personal and her typing skills were of the One Finger 
variety.  Truly I felt sorry for her.

 

I sat down beside her and offered to help. She stopped her work, sat silently 
for a moment, and then suddenly turned to face me saying, “Young man, I will 
type my own report!” She did, and I learned something: One more thing not to do.

 

Harrison

 

 

 

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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Osborne
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 3:25 PM
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] Open Space and Boundaries

 

Harrison, 

 

So I should do nothing.......right?   or is my passion and caring to do a 
little bit ok?  

 

How do I decide? 

 

David  :) 

 

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Harrison Owen <[email protected]> wrote: 

David – good to hear from you. And yes I too believe that the invitation is 
most important. And we can even help, a little bit. But generally speaking I 
suspect folks tend to work much too hard in this area as well. When there is a 
clear issue that people really care about (perhaps THE essential precondition 
for opening space / self organization), I find that the people involved usually 
have a word for it, maybe one or two. Those words may make absolutely no sense 
to us and/or even turn us off... but we aren’t the people who count. Actually I 
find that when folks take a lot of time and effort defining their issue, there 
is a high likelihood that they really don’t have one (issue) – or at least one 
that they really care about.  I guess this is another area where the 
conventional wisdom is rather turned on its head. Conventionally we might think 
of an invitation as an effort to convince people to come. This may be too 
strong, but I rather think that one sign of a good invitation for an Open Space 
is that it drives people away. Or more precisely, it quickly separates those 
who truly care from the “merely curious.” At the end of the day the critical 
thing for me is not how many people come, but rather how much they cared. Five 
people who care a whole bunch are infinitely more effective that 50 people who 
just show up. I think.

 

Harrison 

 

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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Osborne
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:54 AM
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] Open Space and Boundaries

 

Harrison, 

 

I'm catching up on my email and finally have had time to read your response 
here re containers. I agree with your perspective above fully. I see the topic 
of what people care about as the focus or container for the conversation. It is 
self-emergent and we can't force it...we are bystanders or midwives. I do 
believe we can influence the forming process though. For example; a clear 
invitation to discuss what's urgent and important, providing a time, place, and 
safe space to have the conversation all seem to coalesce the energy and support 
it either mobilizing or dissipating as the case may be. I do believe as actors 
that care we are co-creators in the process.....although we can't control it. 
Maybe this is an attractor from complexity language ...or perhaps as I refer to 
it....it is the container of the conversation.....and we're describing the same 
thing. 

 

Best as always, 

 

David 

 

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Harrison Owen <[email protected]> wrote: 

David – I have known Glenda for some years, and have always found her to be 
bright, fun and contributory. She has some wonderful insights about self 
organization, and she works very hard. As a good academic, she certainly does 
her detail, sometimes a bit more than I feel I want or need, but good for all 
of that. However, when it comes to enhancing our function in a self organizing 
world (or Open Space), I suspect she is working a bit too hard. She and her 
fellows have developed a whole series of approaches and exercises which enable 
you to do what I find pretty much happens all by itself. But that is probably 
just me. And for those of you who want to know more about Glenda, I suggest her 
latest book --

 

http://www.amazon.com/Adaptive-Action-Leveraging-Uncertainty-Organization-ebook/dp/B00C3WSKV4/ref=sr_1_1?s=books
 
<http://www.amazon.com/Adaptive-Action-Leveraging-Uncertainty-Organization-ebook/dp/B00C3WSKV4/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1396971594&sr=1-1&keywords=glenda+eoyang>
 &ie=UTF8&qid=1396971594&sr=1-1&keywords=glenda+eoyang 

 

And now back to containers and boundaries. The issue (our differences) may be 
purely semantic  – but maybe not. As I think back over lots of Open Spaces, and 
more particularly what I might call the natural appearance of Open Space 
(Tahrir Square, for example, or the coffee pot) I fully agree that from the 
outside they all look like bounded/contained experiences. There seems to be an 
inside and an outside, a container of some sort. But the question for me: – Is 
that boundary/container externally imposed, and therefore prior to the process 
of self organization as a precondition – or is the boundary/container a PRODUCT 
of the process of self organization?  As I read Glenda, she would opt for the 
former: Container as precondition. I find myself coming down on the other side 
– The apparent container is actually a product of the process. In a word, what 
starts out unbounded and disassociated (random people and things) coalesces 
into a meaningful form, or better, organism/organization – which is what self 
organization is all about, I think. 

 

I grant you that in an Open Space the “room” would seem to be a pre-existing 
container, but I don’t see it as essential. In fact I’ve “done” a number of 
Open Space in the middle of an open field. And when you look at natural 
occurrences, I think it becomes quite clear that pre-existing 
boundaries/containers don’t really have much to do with what is happening. They 
may be convenient or inconvenient, but not determinative. The other things you 
mention (time slots, bulletin board, etc.) don’t fit for me either. Helpful to 
be sure, but you can get along quite well without any of it, or so I’ve found.

 

So what is going on? My sense is that self organization with humans (in Open 
Space and/or everyday) commences when some sort of a vector of caring shows up 
which draws people together. Someone, somewhere, sometime says, or just thinks, 
“I care about... Not just a little bit, but I really care and am prepared to 
take responsibility for what I care about. ” If this care/concern is shared – 
and others care for the same thing, but maybe in very different ways... the 
ball starts rolling.

 

In Open Space, this caring is made concrete and specific with the invitation. 
Of course, when the invite is sent out nobody has a clue whether anybody will 
come... but if they care, they will come, and given a date/place, electronic or 
physical they will all show up in one time/space. The vector of caring will 
draw them in...

 

If the story I am telling roughly reflects the facts on the ground, I think 
there are some interesting and serious implications for the role of the 
facilitator and the function of the container. EVERYTHING is well on the way 
before there is a facilitator in sight or container at hand. In a word, the 
system, from the first moment of its emergence does it all by itself. We are 
bystanders, midwives at best. And the container (whatever that might be) is the 
product of the process ... and not the precondition or cause.

 

Harrison

 

 

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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Osborne
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 12:26 PM
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] Open Space and Boundaries

 

Harrison, 

 

I think this is one of the few times I have a different point of view that you. 
I believe OS's have natural containers built in. I also believe you need a 
container for open space to be effective. I think the difference stems from 
having a different definition or viewpoint on what a container is and can be. 
My view has been heavily influenced by Glenda Eoyang's theory and work in this 
area. For something new to emerge from self organization something has to hold 
our bind the diverse agents together for them to have exchanges across their 
differences.   

 

- The room or space the OS is being held in is a container.... 

- A concept or idea that people care about brings the people together.....it 
binds or contains them creating the space to have the conversations to emerge.  

- The bulletin board is a container.....scheduling a specific conversation at a 
specific place and time. 

 

In my experience there are always multiple containers that are massively 
intertwined. 

 

My thoughts along the way. 

 

David 

 

 

 

On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Michael Wood <[email protected]> wrote: 

Thanks, Harrison, for your response to my question on 'boundaries', 
particularly your paraphrasing of my question - which was spot on.  One thing 
I've taken from this brief conversation is that although considering the 
boundaries can be useful, we also need to accept that boundaries are never 
entirely clear, always moving on a spectrum from clear to uncertain/murky and 
if we, as a sponsor or facilitator, get overly bound up with boundaries then we 
might have moved, once again, into being too controlling. 

Michael Wood 
Perth, Western Australia 


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It has been common for us to speak of Containers and Boundaries as somehow 
essential to Open Space. I can't quite find the place, but I do remember saying 
something like that myself, as in, "The role of the facilitator is to create 
the container..." It certainly made sense at the time, but I always felt a 
little uncomfortable with the image. Too mechanical, coercive... too something. 
And Michael has brought the subject up again. "So...here we have a situation 
where the 'boundaries' are actually in a state of complex flux and uncertainty. 
The financial 'givens' are ambiguous; there is no 'locum' 
pastor in place because of legal uncertainties with the existing pastor...etc." 
You might call it "messy boundaries" -- and he raises the question whether one 
should press ahead with Open Space, or wait until the "mess" is settled down. 
On the one hand, Michael "hunches" that one should press on -- Open Space. But 
his hesitation comes, I suspect, from the prior notion that fixed 
boundaries/containers are necessary for an effective Open Space. What to do? 

Some thoughts (new ones for me): Containers are great for cooking soup, but are 
unneeded and maybe even problematical in Open Space. It is all about holding 
things together. In Open Space groups of people come together to deal with 
their issues. At the very least that would mean gathering in some common 
time/space, be that physical or electronic. It would seem that this co-location 
could be facilitated were some suitable "container" provided, presumably by the 
sponsor/facilitator. This certainly makes sense, and as a rough way of 
speaking, it seems to describe what is going on. But as I think about it, I 
think we may be missing a most important point. Coming together in Open Space 
happens because people care to come. And they continue their connection as long 
as they care to do so. (Law of two feet) 

>From the "outside" it might look as if they were held in place by a 
container, but that is illusory. The actual dynamics are centripetal, the force 
is mutual attraction... people are "there" because they care to be there and 
not because they are contained by some external structure. In a word, we as 
facilitators really don't do a thing, and creating a container is the least of 
what we DON'T do. The people, from the beginning, do it all. 


Of course, there are situations where groups come together under orders, 
mandates, whatever. And they are definitely "contained." It is also true that 
the tighter that container, the less likely self organization will take place. 
If true, providing a container is not only unnecessary but also destructive. In 
the name of Opening space, we effectively close it. Or so I suspect it might 
be. Just thinking... 

Anyhow Michael, should my mental peregrinations lead anywhere useful, it would 
seem that your "hunch" was spot on. Forget the boundaries/container. 
Just invite the space to open. 

Harrison 










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Subject: [OSList] Open Space and boundaries 

A Case Study.... 
One of the principles that I have generally worked with in Open Space is 
helping the client get clear on the 'boundaries' of the space that's being 
opened. For example, helping people who come into the space to know 'what up 
for grabs here and what isn't? What decisions have already been made?' 

So picture this (purely hypothetical of course)....a church community in which 
the pastor has (in many peoples' opinion) run off the rails and the main church 
body is in the process of trying to dismiss him; the church is in compete 
disarray and completely conflict ridden, many people have left; the pastor who 
holds all the keys, banking passwords; church telephone connections etc etc, 
has taken legal advice and had hunkered down in the church owned house where he 
continues to hold the reigns of power (via some of his 'allies' in the church) 
despite not formally being the Pastor of the church anymore.... 

So...here we have a situation where the 'boundaries' are actually in a state of 
complex flux and uncertainty. The financial 'givens' are ambiguous; there is no 
'locum' pastor in place because of legal uncertainties with the existing 
pastor...etc etc. 

So in terms of 'Opening Space', do we wait a bit longer until some of the legal 
boundaries are clarified, OR open space right away in the midst of the 
mess....my hunch is the latter, but any thoughts from anyone? 

Cheers 
Michael 
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