Wow - thanks Birgitt. I very much enjoyed your perspective and resonate with it.

I love trainings (as long as they're very little lecture and lots of experience, movement, creation and experiments... and play). I love the work of Sharon Bowman, "Training from the Back of the Room". It's almost required reading for moving up in the Scrum Alliance's trainer certification track. (Ack - did I say certification???!)

Some questions:

Is it wrong to take and enjoy an Open Space Training?
Do the trainers and the trainees deserve censure for taking and enjoying, sometimes multiple times, such trainings? Is training a less than helpful word? Does it invoke Pavlovian punishment/reward processes, and sitting obediently around the guru/teacher?

A little bit about "question storming" that I learned from the book by Warren Berger "A More Beautiful Question <http://amorebeautifulquestion.com/>". It can be useful to build more questions by taking yes/no ones like the ones above, and opening them. And it can be useful to do the reverse too! Turning open questions into yes/no ones.

How can taking and enjoying trainings for Open Space be a good thing, and how can it be detrimental?

How do both offering and taking trainings for Open Space Techonology close space? How could it open it?

What other words invoke a more "Open Space" purpose and intent than "training"?

How can the use of the word "Trainings" for Open Space actually be a benefit?

    Cheers,
    Harold



On 7/19/16 11:59 AM, Birgitt Williams via OSList wrote:
I just wanted to add a little to Harrison's point about 'unlearning'. In something we refer to as 'training' which is a misnomer unto itself, we have
-unlearning
-getting in touch with the mythology, story, and ritual that we are, in other words getting into genuine contact with ourselves -getting in even deeper genuine contact with ourselves until we can access the memories carried in our bones, in our cells, and in our hearts and souls of what is good, true and beautiful in us all and in our connections -this leads to genuine contact with another, with the collective and with Creator/Creation

Does it take 2 days? Does it take a lifetime? 2 days is a starting point....personally I prefer to offer a 4 day learning journey...not just about facilitation and the essence of OST....the form is after all quite simple....I like to include how to work with OST within a fixed system so that the outcomes from an OST meeting have their best chance to shift into action and positive results.

I took Harrison's OST training 4 day training 7 times...learning more each time. I have offered countless OST trainings and learn more each time. Maybe it is a quirk of mine...I totally enjoyed three years deeply immersed in studying the circle...and these days I am enjoying learning the nuances of the breath as metaphor. Great joy!

Blessings all around,
Birgitt

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 8:08 AM Harrison Owen via OSList <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Paul – Good to see you! And I was struck with your question… “How
    can it possibly take 2 days to "teach"

    OST and why would anyone ever want to teach it anyway ?” In my
    experience it certainly does not take 2 days to “teach” Open
    Space. BUT it does seem to take two days to get even a minimal
    start on un-learning all the stuff we thought we knew about
    working together – All the stuff that clogs up our space so that
    working becomes difficult and sometimes impossible.

    Harrison

    *From:*OSList [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of
    *paul levy via OSList
    *Sent:* Tuesday, July 19, 2016 7:06 AM
    *To:* Harold Shinsato; World wide Open Space Technology email list
    *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Renewing the Mission of the Open Space
    Institute U.S.

    Harold

     A few more questions ...

    Warm wishes

    Paul

    Why are we still calling OST a technology ?

    Why is the LAW of two feel a law ?

    If the "principles" are not prescriptions but descriptions why are
    they called principles ?

    How can it possibly take 2 days to "teach"

    OST and why would anyone ever want to teach it anyway ?

    Why do OST "elders" on the OS list keep advocating dogmatic views
    about OST? (Oh yes you do)

    What if one less thing to do was facilitation ?

    How could OSI begin a humble inquiry into new and valuable ways of
    opening space? And learn from them ?

    What questions do we need to ask that cannot be formed into
    latinised words and phrases ?

    Where is open space technology when the world needs to open space
    most - right now ?



    On Monday, 18 July 2016, Harold Shinsato via OSList
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Dear People of Open Space:

    The Open Space Institute of the U.S. has been "holding space for
    open space" since at least 1997. It's origins lie in the summer of
    1996, 20 years ago. In the beginnings, there were many serious
    conversations in the community as to the role and mission of such
    an institute, and that role has certainly evolved over the years.
    The board has determined it is time for us to revisit our mission
    and role, and especially to invite and trust the rest of the
    community refresh and renew our purpose.

    Rather than have a mission statement, we hope instead to have a
    mission question. Or series of questions. What are the most
    valuable and alive questions for our community right now, and for
    the foreseeable future?

    To start the "question storming", here are some questions that
    have been reportedly asked deeply within our community in the
    early days:

    What is Open Space Technology?
    What is Open Space?
    What is Space?

    And here are some practical questions that would help guide the
    OSI-US's operations:

    How can the OSI-US best support our community?
    How can we best work together with the community to co-create a
    broad and diverse circle of people holding space for open space?

        Thanks!
        Harold Shinsato
        on behalf of the Board of the Open Space Institute, U.S.

-- Harold Shinsato
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    http://shinsato.com
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