all true, birgitt. i was talking about the bare minimum in a general sense. i've never seen a story without some people, so people would seem to be first requirement to have a meeting (or at least person). and if you stop there, just people, no story, and you get yourself an unconference. add a story about some purpose and you get an open space meeting. can then add anything else after that, as you like, if you want, but eventually at your own risk. <grin> m
-- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 312-280-7838 (mobile) http://MichaelHerman.com http://OpenSpaceWorld.org On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList < [email protected]> wrote: > Lucas, > I cannot seem to stay on the intended topic of this thread...to get ideas. > I am aware of how short lived creations can be, before they morph into > something else. I also realized I asked insufficient questions in a prior > post. The questions I feel need to be answered are: > Lucas...what are you passionate about with this work you are into, what > brings a fire to your heart and soul? And then go with it, whatever it may > be. Someone and maybe many someones will say 'this is just what I need!". > Follow your bliss and they will come. When something is created from heart > centered 'this is what I am in the world to do' and 'this is my bit for > creating a more nourishing future for humanity' you are on the right track. > > Michael...in that training you did where the 'we' of that group concluded > that OST could be distilled to people and story, that is one example that > comes out of doing that exercise. having done this exercise with lots of > people, the results are diverse, with different people and groups of people > reaching different conclusions. One of the things I say to the facilitators > is that no one except them can make the choice of what constitutes and OST > meeting and what does not based on whatever elements they personally feel > are necessary. It depends very much on what their hearts are calling them > to create. > > What feels like space that is open to one person feels like closed space > to another person. > > I believe Chris Corrigan spoke about the artistry. > > What I can imagine that would open space for me is a drumming circle. No > topics, no reports, etc. Just someone present all of the time (alternating > people) who are willing to keep the drumming circle going. As different > ones of us join in, each with our own drums, choosing video feed or not, > people join in the beat, maybe aligning with the heartbeat of the earth. > Somewhere on the screen, there could be a space for capturing reflections > that happened during the participation of the individual...in words and in > drawings and other graphics. I could imagine this gaining quite a > following...although if your intent is money making, it might need to be > donation based. > > Blessings, > Birgitt > > > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 4:56 PM Michael Herman via OSList < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I watched a video yesterday from a recent conference, a traditional >> affair with all shapes and sizes of workshop/presentation sessions. This >> one I was watching had a sort of panel presentation, with five different >> people sharing stories. All of their stories were accompanied by a >> powerpoint backdrop, but that is sort of forgivable since their topic was >> specifically about visualization of complex work and dynamics. Would have >> been weird without some visuals to their stories of visualizations. >> >> The interesting thing is that one of the panelists was across an ocean. >> He presented on the big screen, shared his screen to show his examples, and >> all through the session he watched the audience and the other speakers on >> his laptop. He asked questions of the audience and got a show of hands. >> He was totally there. >> >> So some of the wondering about face-to-face or online sounds like to me a >> bit like asking if open space needs a fancy retreat setting or could it >> happen in a ballroom or church basement or middle school gymnasium. Online >> in just another place. Wherever it happens, it's open space, right >> enough. You can search the archives for when Ralph Copleman had us cooking >> up solutions for opening for a large-ish group on a beach. >> >> In a session at the same conference I mentioned, we did two sessions on >> distributed teamwork, where people from all over work on the same team >> everyday. We had 40-50 people in the room and another 10 or so online, via >> sococo.com and also using some little robot gizmos each of which lets >> one person put their face on an ipad and remotely control the neck that >> holds it, so they can turn their head, nod, look up and down. >> >> in a recent training conversation we boiled down the must-haves in open >> space to just two. we wiped out circle, postits, chairs, and so on. we >> decided the two essentials were people and a story. >> >> so if the fifth principle works, online is just another place. yes, some >> places are better for us than others. pillars are a hassle. so's not >> being able to see faces of other ppts. not being able to move myself >> between breakouts is pretty much like fixed theater seating. >> >> what works online? pretty much what works everywhere else. we need >> people and a story, someplace to tell the story, so that implies a >> gathering place. we need a way to see other ppts, their faces and their >> groupings in clusters of conversation. we need a way to wander around and >> get in other people's view, to be noticed, so we can say hello. we need a >> way to write and read topics for discussion and hang them somewhere. We >> need a way for anyone to ask the facilitator a question, but ideally not in >> the middle of the opening briefing, or right as it finishes. A way to >> capture notes and share them with everyone. >> >> The onscreen view can be very simple. I'm wondering just now what it >> would look like as a slightly larger than screen-sized space, so it needed >> to be moved around and zoomed like a google map. That's a totally new idea >> for me, just now, and I think i do like that. Zoom and Slide in a big >> online working space. Can you rig that up, Lucas? >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Michael Herman >> Michael Herman Associates >> 312-280-7838 (mobile) >> >> http://MichaelHerman.com >> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Makes me of the response from a techie on why they still have face to >>> face meetings with all the tech available for communication: higher >>> bandwidth. >>> >>> Ben — thanks for painting a terrific picture of the potential. >>> >>> Peggy >>> >>> >>> >>> _________________________________ >>> Peggy Holman >>> Executive Director >>> Journalism that Matters >>> 15347 SE 49th Place >>> Bellevue, WA 98006 >>> 425-746-6274 >>> www.journalismthatmatters.net >>> www.peggyholman.com >>> Twitter: @peggyholman >>> JTM Twitter: @JTMStream >>> >>> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into >>> Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 5:30 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> The story of OS and the Techies is a long one. As it happened, the folks >>> who were present for the first OS, and subsequently constituted major parts >>> of the early community were all Techies of a sort. Some of them actually >>> designed systems and wrote code and others were more “eager participants” – >>> that would include me. The new toy was Internet, which at the point we >>> became involved was still property of the US Army and known as DARPA NET. >>> The world changed under our feet, and the word “exciting” is pretty limp. >>> >>> >>> Early on some of the commercial techies thought they saw possibilities >>> in OS. One group came to me with what they thought was a revolutionary >>> idea: Set up a room full of laptops and have everybody communicate through >>> them and a “master” screen set on the wall. The whole thing was prewired >>> and magnificently packaged. They made their presentation, but their faces >>> fell when I said, “Guys, we could actually talk to each other.” In fact, I >>> believe they made a fair amount of money selling the thing to corporations >>> who were (had been) convinced that their executives were too shy, or >>> whatever, to communicate directly, face to face. >>> >>> The iterations have continued over the years. You know the most recent >>> ones, but there are more. I have always admired the energy and creativity. >>> But at the end of the day, I really didn’t see much value added that >>> couldn’t have been supplied (at much less cost) by the simple application >>> of everyday, off the shelf kinds of stuff. I do grant that the proposed >>> systems were an awful lot prettier – and I really was impressed with my >>> electronic “birthday.” But from the very beginning it seemed to me that we >>> were looking at a technology in search of an application. I totally >>> understand the techie attraction, and I salute their tenacity…. >>> >>> Somehow, the attempt to “replicate the Open Space experience online” >>> just doesn’t catch me. The comparison is indeed odious – but it rather >>> reminds me of attempting to replicate making love. >>> >>> So I guess I am back to where I started – What next? It’s wide open and >>> massively potential… but we ain’t there yet. I don’t think. >>> >>> Harrison >>> >>> >>> Winter Address >>> 7808 River Falls Dr. >>> Potomac, MD 20854 >>> 301-365-2093 >>> >>> Summer Address >>> 189 Beaucauire Ave >>> Camden, ME 04843 >>> 207 763-3261 >>> >>> Websites >>> www.openspaceworld.com >>> www.ho-image.com >>> >>> *From:* OSList [mailto:[email protected] >>> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Suzanne Daigle >>> via OSList >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:06 PM >>> *To:* Harrison Owen >>> *Cc:* World wide Open Space Technology email list >>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using >>> video chat? >>> >>> >>> Hello HO, >>> >>> NOW WHAT indeed! >>> >>> No more apologies for getting carried away. Be it me bubbling forth with >>> the feeling of "love", a word I would not have dared utter loudly in >>> public, most especially in professional contexts. Yet those feelings are >>> undeniably there and I shall utter them as they happen. :-) So far I've >>> survived speaking my mind... Even more it's blasted holes by opening more >>> space that led to productive inspired work, in ways that made me happy I >>> didn't keep my mouth shut. With guys and gals. >>> >>> Nor shall I hold back on what I envision in the virtual world. Beyond >>> the so called internet. As one who has hosted often in my physical house >>> and been similarly hosted in the homes of others, I know there is more to >>> be invented there. >>> While I may not be the one doing the inventing, I will gladly partake in >>> the joy of this imagined future experience and I will wholeheartedly nudge, >>> prod, and encourage those who passionately see beyond the reaches of what I >>> see. >>> >>> So rather than a duel on the matter, what say you to a hearty Martini in >>> Manila so I can paint a picture of what I see? >>> >>> After all, you're the one who got me in this mess of Open Space with all >>> this spirited wave rider stuff and grateful am I that it came my way! >>> >>> From a happy Florida camper, >>> Suzanne >>> >>> On Aug 30, 2016 5:38 PM, "Harrison Owen" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > OK – You do get carried away for a bit! But you are right!! AND. Your >>> imagination is exceeded only by reality!!! (“Today as I imagine the >>> possibility of a Virtual House where I could drop in to just hang out with >>> family, friends, colleagues and Open Space pals, from around the world, I >>> know that this possibility exists. To see Tova in Israel, Claudia in Egypt, >>> Sharon Joy in Manila, Alan in Australia, etc. etc. etc.”) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Suzanne – This is what we do. Every day. All the time. Ever >>> since!!!! It’s called The Internet. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > NOW WHAT! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ho >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Winter Address >>> > >>> > 7808 River Falls Dr. >>> > >>> > Potomac, MD 20854 >>> > >>> > 301-365-2093 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Summer Address >>> > >>> > 189 Beaucauire Ave >>> > >>> > Camden, ME 04843 >>> > >>> > 207 763-3261 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Websites >>> > >>> > www.openspaceworld.com >>> > >>> > www.ho-image.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: OSList [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Suzanne Daigle via OSList >>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:07 PM >>> > >>> > To: Lucas Cioffi; World wide Open Space Technology email list >>> > Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using video >>> chat? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Dear Lucas and all, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > As you pose your question and I saw the replies, I realize once again >>> how passionate you, Ben Roberts, Brian Burt and others are about creating >>> virtual experiences for others and with others. With the spirit and >>> essence of Open Space. Thank you so very much! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > In seeing your names, I relived the magic of past virtual Open Space >>> events (Brené Brown and the Global Conversation - Maestro and Brian Burt) >>> and Harrison's 80th Birthday Party (Lucas and Michael Herman) last year >>> and yes WOSonOS Florida too (Ben Roberts and others) with opportunities >>> here and there to welcome colleagues. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > None perfect but all exhilarating in the trailblazing and experiencing >>> of it. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Lucas I share your "Field of Dream Passion - Build it and They Will >>> Come" though not in developing, refining, improving or simplifying the >>> mechanics of it in the backroom so all can go smooth in the virtual space. >>> That is not my expertise or passion. It is the work of unsung heroes. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > If I was to focus on your word "simplest" aka "simplify", I wonder if >>> we could not create the feel of sitting in a circle without talking about a >>> circle (like sitting around a campfire, in the comfort of your living room >>> or around your kitchen table)? Rather than breakouts, could we have rooms >>> and corners where people can go hang out? Rather than a marketplace wall, >>> it could be like going to a movie with a bill board that announces the >>> movies that are playing. Then of course you could see who's there, in which >>> room. People would instantly think this is really cool and not a process >>> thing. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > We know that Open Space works best when we don't talk about Open >>> Space; we don't talk about a circle, breakouts and stuff. We simply invite >>> from the purpose, theme or reason for meeting. In those first moments of >>> sitting in a circle, looking at the floor and the marketplace wall, it all >>> seems so foreign to people who have never experienced OS before. Why then >>> should we bring these concepts into the virtual space? We don't have to >>> counteract the familiarity of a theatre style setting, reject the podium or >>> a panel of speakers. >>> > >>> > We can create brand new space - a space of welcome, connecting and >>> getting things done from the comfort of our own home or office or wherever. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > For each element of Open Space, there could be a way of explaining it >>> that invites a degree of freedom that feels different, open and fun. People >>> might attribute it to "this is how it happens virtually" and in the process >>> they would be living the law of two feet. We'd be communicating intent as >>> we give the mechanics of how to move around. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I'm sorry if I got a bit carried away. Ben Roberts once told me years >>> ago that he pictured that some virtual meetings could be better than in >>> person. I didn't quite believe him. Today as I imagine the possibility of >>> a Virtual House where I could drop in to just hang out with family, >>> friends, colleagues and Open Space pals, from around the world, I know that >>> this possibility exists. To see Tova in Israel, Claudia in Egypt, Sharon >>> Joy in Manila, Alan in Australia, etc. etc. etc. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Suzanne >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Suzanne Daigle >>> > Open Space Facilitator >>> > NuFocus Strategic Group >>> > >>> > FL 941-359-8877 >>> > Cell: 203-722-2009 >>> > www.nufocusgroup.com >>> > [email protected] >>> > Twitter @Daiglesuz >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Lucas Cioffi via OSList < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi All, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I would be super-excited to hear how folks would design the simplest >>> online Open Space experience using video chat. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I posted my thoughts below, but I put them further down so that you >>> might have a moment to think about what online OS experience would work >>> best for you, rather than letting my thoughts influence yours. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > My... >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > thoughts... >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > are... >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > down... >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > below... >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Here are my rough thoughts: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > 1. When the event begins you open up a webpage. You can see the >>> following: >>> > >>> > where the opening circle is >>> > how many virtual breakout spaces there are >>> > who is in each virtual space right now >>> > what is being discussed now and in the future (a bulletin board / >>> marketplace / idea wall) >>> > >>> > 2. Next you choose to enter a space by turning on your video chat. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Note: The following features seem helpful but not necessary: >>> > >>> > 3. When you arrive in a space, you see a shared notes area available >>> to all participants. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > 4. There is a way to raise your hand to indicate that you'd like to >>> speak. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > 5. There is a way to share a quick message such as ("I have to step >>> away for a moment"). >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Thanks so much for any advice. I look forward to hearing what you >>> have in mind! >>> > >>> > >>> > Lucas Cioffi >>> > >>> > Founder, QiqoChat >>> > >>> > Charlottesville, VA >>> > >>> > Mobile: 917-528-1831 >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > OSList mailing list >>> > To post send emails to [email protected] >>> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> > Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive. >>> com/[email protected] >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive. >>> com/[email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/ >>> [email protected] >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/ >> [email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > [email protected] >
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