Chris,

This is really interesting thank you.

Best

Karl

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Micheal’s description below is helpful, and I will add that the form of 
complexity being researched by the Santa Fe institute is computational 
complexity, which is valuable but not completely the way that human systems 
operate.

This map does a really good job at articulating the various currents in 
complexity theory as they have unfolded over the last number of decades: 
http://scimaps.org/maps/map/map_of_complexity_sc_154/detail<https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1fcZI7-0000MP-3m&i=57e1b682&c=VYCdaTHGEe2eDluXb024IZFazLzBvcFc50K3uNVBNLcbkNV_7h4SDuQHjT5jqbBnyZ6jL9nsuVRu9da7Xh1D8jKTn_U9PgAvOzxztLwKM9UbwYIT3gVBiNhSA57n64EdsOkh_As-SrOfFo_AI6qJPuKDvm1-bOdVyccej4CgsPIYshtK5BuNm9tJSVwIsGkwgGLAmukaRKkPmV5Ru3NCbvaQbmGaYl2XMjSPx_wqFYeL8nehE_FJ6EGLaPSfrI44g_ENVPBrzy3bjLidgjFXvA>

Lately I have been working a lot with the work of David Snowden 
(www.corgnitve-edge.com<https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1fcZI7-0000MP-3m&i=57e1b682&c=L3RLbgjTgXY6gBFlccjZmL4KT0jMpv1EC2Cqbadsjk40KQLezjXUm5UGOaukmpVqheipgDhC5xBgU8Arz6SxWED4msmYZnDbfPicn6n9KmPOcj-1gBTj9yw_AzyOiMe5sMgwRwtAgoWlyBbDPtK6vRV0zONO39mzhmPcHuo7321hGxkDePS-dG1em5E296DDird4IHw0n9iGuKWzu2vQ3T3c_C1y_ehhkaHfi4IqPb0>)
 and Glenda Eoyang 
(https://www.hsdinstitute.org<https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1fcZI7-0000MP-3m&i=57e1b682&c=vdkUOdvFicb4oiE0oAxueT1gFoyLRiiY1GEUToOOlPXZcwCikAoaie4KqaXhgm-nCiRHgomdfwjltuFuNM0yzE96qkKJi1Gf5sIRP90yxYZRE3INY8fgSvFENAgQ75tcAo6kP21Ee0NI7MIBRvve_SMA6uRe5C7HBokSnES66VdfAx1k_kK3ntVLk2_iQez84_NkycriNXKO1IRNyF5Sy6c_VtbbVvB5FuOlxpcYqi4>),
 the latter of whom has done a lot of work on containers too. Her book Adaptive 
Action is quite a good and accessible introduction to her work, describing the 
role of containers in complexity.  The paper I published in teh Journal of 
Organizational Development expanded Dave’s theory of containers as well.

Chris




On Jul 8, 2018, at 1:33 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Dear Harrison,

I suspect that "academic" approaches of the established kind are very weak for 
really complex stuff such as for instance "selforganisation" which was 
discovered early in our experimental journey to be the essential ingredient in 
the Open Space Technology approach.

In other words, commonly used scientific exploration which is then visible in 
the "academic literature" has a hard time to get to the core. That might also 
result in the incoherent phenomenon of having many millions of people all over 
the world exposed to "OST" and thousands of facilitators working with this 
approach for decades with unusual results AND talking about their EXPERIENCES 
but not "analysing" or "researching" it with tools they know but are 
ineffective.

Of course, this will not discourage our quest for getting an understanding... 
working with it, though, and seeing productive outcomes appears to be 
sufficient for our praxis. I say that in the face of what I also believe "there 
is no better thing for good praxis than a good theory" (this is a short form of 
what Kurt Lewin had to say on this subject). So I love folks like Karl who are 
on the quest!

Looking at the German wikipedia for "self-organisation" I saw this note:

---"They arise predominantly through processes of spontaneous self-organization 
and are usually inaccessible to a theory based on known mathematical 
functions."---

which is embedded in this longer piece that also refers to the work of the 
Santa Fe folks

---"Theory of complex systems

The latest flow is the theory of complex systems. A complex system is a system 
whose properties can not be completely explained by the properties of the 
components of the system. Complex systems consist of a multitude of 
interconnected and interacting parts, entities, or agents.

Complex systems are widespread, indeed almost dominant, from the world of 
elementary particles right up to human society. [2] They arise predominantly 
through processes of spontaneous self-organization and are usually inaccessible 
to a theory based on known mathematical functions. Examples are the formation 
of atomic nuclei, the atoms, the transformation of substances from one state of 
aggregation into another, crystallization, chemical reactions, evolution, 
mental processes in the brain, the development of social systems, etc. In open 
nature, open systems are dominant In the inanimate nature, complex systems 
usually form spontaneously with the release of energy or in thermal equilibrium.

The theory of complex adaptive systems is based primarily on the work of the 
Santa Fe Institute. This new complexity theory, which describes emergence, 
adaptation and self-organization, is based on agents and computer simulations 
that include multi-agent systems (MAS), which have become an important tool in 
the exploration of social and complex systems."---

Wishing us all a grand weekend
Greetings from Berlin where I will pick the first blackberries of this season 
in our garden, a marvel of selforganisation, those berries
mmp







Am 07.07.2018 um 13:37 schrieb Harrison Owen via OSList:

Karl – there is very little in the academic literature for reasons I’ve always 
found interesting and odd… but predictable. However, the International Press 
has covered it extensively and if you will accept a rather biased source, I 
have a number of books on the subject. 5 remain in print and are published by 
Berrett-Koehler. There are also a number of others, now out of print, but 
available online at 
www.openspaceworld.com<https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1fcZI7-0000MP-3m&i=57e1b682&c=GaYbYc6zkKOD0Bok3t8u49IVAWOcBS1Gz75Xpa7XsX8ry9ziRyF9loziLimDXgZ1jQtyMK2fikn1Iz3SXX7VYtpnSGeRVEP4Kzd6Qh3QM0JjjRr-0NmdtpdmLyHKkI56T3pnAcdnLA4YtNlrNBtHb0eGcwFbhfMnnnmidSRqY7Ys55lAhJavPWg9plZgExJAHHGmwr1saUfvdLCi-G2X0MaWYpY9qGeON_nGcYVeXO4>
 
<http://www.openspaceworld.com<https://url6.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1fcZI7-0000MP-3m&i=57e1b682&c=GaYbYc6zkKOD0Bok3t8u49IVAWOcBS1Gz75Xpa7XsX8ry9ziRyF9loziLimDXgZ1jQtyMK2fikn1Iz3SXX7VYtpnSGeRVEP4Kzd6Qh3QM0JjjRr-0NmdtpdmLyHKkI56T3pnAcdnLA4YtNlrNBtHb0eGcwFbhfMnnnmidSRqY7Ys55lAhJavPWg9plZgExJAHHGmwr1saUfvdLCi-G2X0MaWYpY9qGeON_nGcYVeXO4>>
 along with s number of occasional papers.  You might find my first book, 
“Spirit: Transformation and Development in Organizations” interesting. It is 
not about Open Space per se but represents the basic framework out of which it 
grew. It is also the first time I used the words “open space.” Good luck – and 
I’d love to see where you go.
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*Subject:* [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space
Dear Colleagues,
I am in the process of writing a PHD by publication and have become interested 
in the conceptual basis of opening space/holding space and closing space. I am 
also interested in the concept of self structuring   of open space (contentious 
I know) and pattern recognition as people participate in open space.
Does anyone know of any literature around these themes.. or equally, any 
thoughts?
Just a thought.
Many thanks in advance
Karl
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Dear Thomas,
thank you for your dedication and creativity to explore open space. :) I am 
sure you have sooo many new stories to share about the essence and nature of 
open space!
I am really looking forward to experiencing your new level of thinking, being 
present and sharing new perspectives at our training Working with Open Space 
Technology <https://www.dorisgottlieb.com/ost-2018> in the Netherlands in 
September this year.
It’s always so much fun to “work” with Doris, you and our participants.
Doris and myself are also planning to come to Iceland to the WOSonOS and hope 
to meet many of our dear & crazy colleagues from around the world there! ;)
I recently facilitated an Open Space Technology meeting at a school with 300 
young people who discussed how to get involved and support migrants coming to 
Germany.
Here <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXMuiGMm9Kc&t=17s> you can see a little 
Video about the Open Space - in German (no subtitles).
much Love all around!
Anna Caroline
   On Jul 3, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Thomas Herrmann via OSList
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   Dear friends in Open Space
   I just returned home after almost 6 months “in open space”. My wife
   and myself have been on a journey in 6 countries including NZ, Aus,
   Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos and Indonesia. No musts just going with the
   flow – being in open space. What a privilege and joy. And now I am
   back in our house, renovating my office and enjoying summer
   holiday😊. I have also booked my tickets to joinWOSonOS in Iceland
   <https://events.artegis.com/event/WOSonOS_2018>in October. Otherwise
   there is a lot of open space ahead which gives me the opportunity to
   be and see what emerges. Exciting!
   I also want to take the opportunity to ask you to spread the word,
   if you know anyone interested to learn how to work with OST in a
   sustainable way. I am happy to offer our three day training
   September 12-14 in our favorite place in The Netherlands, 50 min
   from Amsterdam airport. This learning journey is facilitated by a
   great team where I am happy to “work” together with Doris Gottlieb
   and Anna Caroline Türk.
   More info! <https://www.dorisgottlieb.com/ost-2018>
   Adding a picture from an open spacey Sweden
   <image001.jpg>
   So, see you in Amsterdam and/or Iceland…
   Hugs
   Thomas Herrmann
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