Thank you Harold, I love the simplicity that has been maintained for our email list, and the independence to the extent possible for us to be in a platform that supports us. Thank you for your work on this over many years, and also to those who preceded you.
A super super simple way to pay attention to the list, and to follow threads really really easily is to use the GREAT feature of the archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. Every post gets placed in the archives, the archives are searchable. When something that is posted catches my attention, it is easy to go to the archives to see what I may have missed in the thread and also simultaneously by topic access what has been discussed in relation to the topic over the years. in genuine contact, Birgitt [image: Picture] *Birgitt Williams* *Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants * *Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership development, and the power of nourishing a culture of leadership.* www.dalarinternational.com >> Learn More & Register <http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/> for any of our upcoming workshops here. PO Box 19373, Raleigh, NC, USA 27613 Phone: 01-919-522-7750 Like us on Facebook <https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=6677c35b38&e=e7zyhHfiqG> Connect on LinkedIn <https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=c26173f86b&e=e7zyhHfiqG> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 10:24 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Mark, > > The software we use is version 2.1.23 of GNU MailMan, which is an open > source email distribution list management platform. Our MailMan service is > provided for free by DreamHost.com, who also provides free webhosting > service to the Open Space Institute - U.S. DreamHost.com has been a great > company, and they offer free webhosting to 501(c)(3) non-profits. > > I agree that the MailMan needs an major upgrade. An upgrade is not > something offered by DreamHost, though I can install it on the DreamHost > servers. But I hope no one thinks we are back in the "stone ages", or "when > the internet was first invented". I treasure your passion for truth, but I > don't like being disrespected or dishonored, especially with falsehoods. > Here are the facts. > > 1) The date of the invention of the internet is somewhat fuzzy, but the > real guy who invented the internet (standing on the shoulders of many > others) was Vinton Cerf, who designed the TCP/IP protocols in the 1970's. > TCP/IP was accepted as the ARPANET protocol in 1983. > > 2) Version 2.1.23 GNU MailMan is relatively old, released in August 2016. > The latest 2.x version is 2.1.34 released in June of 2020. But it just > minor issues. I'd like to update to version 3.3.2 (Nov 6, 2020). which has > a more modern interface. > > 3) We are an EMAIL based system. For most people, it's not going to look > very different, no matter what system we use. Everyone gets to use their > own email program. We aren't forcing anyone to use a website, download an > app to their phones, etc. > > 4) There are other closed platforms we could use. (Like GoogleGroups, > Groups.IO, etc. etc.). These platforms do have their own community > standards, and they do forbid certain conversations. I don't think that is > appropriate for the main Open Space online conversation. I hope we can stay > independent. > > Mark - I am valuing your feedback. We do need a major upgrade, for > multiple reasons beyond your personal experience of the formatting (which I > have explained how you can fix in an earlier email). But I don't think you > are being fair or accurate. > > Harold > > On 1/27/21 6:15 PM, Mark Carmel via OSList wrote: > > It is so hard to follow a thread of thought. When was this platform > started? When the internet was first invented? Come on folks, let's catch > up with a workable format. This is in need of a major upgrade. Thanks for > your consideration, > Mark Carmel > > > -- > Harold Shinsato > [email protected] > https://shinsato.com > twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush> > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
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