Great questions - Steve!
I've not yet played much with GNU MailMan 3.3, but it does have a much
prettier modern looking interface. I am appreciating this poking topic
about us being "antiquated" in adding to my motivation and enthusiasm
about the upgrade process. As much as making it pretty will help folks
get in and self-manage their accounts - the most urgent reasons for
upgrading are actually about avoiding so many email services automatic
spam filtering and blocking systems, as well as moving to SSL.
If a consensus emerges about a shift to the intro text - that will be
easy for me to execute. It needs to be just text and links for now. And
it should be "An introductory description - a few paragraphs - about the
list. " Not really a place for embedded pictures or videos (but links to
them are ok).
This is what it says now (at
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org)
Welcome to the international Open Space Technology mailing list.
Operating since December 1996, this list includes some of the
foremost Open Space Technology facilitators, including the
originator, Harrison Owen.
For more information about Open Space Technology (OST) - there have
been several books published - and there are many OST descriptions
posted on the internet. Here's an about page for OST
<http://osius.org/content/about-open-space-technology>.
Harold
On 1/29/21 11:32 AM, Steve Holyer via OSList wrote:
Yep. This OSList works for me. Adding my thanks to the past
moderators, the contributors, and Harold.
And I’m glad the openness is in keeping with this community. I
wouldn’t change it.
And I was online back in the 80s and for sure then 90s when listservs
were all the rage.
i wonder if the retro look and feel and operation of a mailing list is
something of a barrier to entry for folks who never participated in a
listserv discussion—or who prefer a new fangled something or other? I
wouldn’t change it, but could we find a welcoming (and open) way to
invite more people? I don’t know what that is. Maybe just a youtube
video on how to connect with the community via the mailing list. (Even
having Harrison’s response on the history and openness of the list
helps me connect to the list and not be put off by it. I appreciate it
more after reading this thread, and I appreciate it before. So maybe
just a way to to pin Harrisons words to the signup and archive page
would be useful. I think just pinning a long threaded list of messages
to include this whole thread wouldn’t really speak to the people who
might be put off by long list of mails in a thread already :D — but a
summary, or a video with some choice quotes could be helpful! ;)
I’m not passionate enough about this issue to be the person to find an
answer. (Or is it not responsible enough to stick around on this
question.) Don’t want to put more load on Harold either.
And I think this is a question worth asking at least, to see how it’s
answered.
Cheers,
Steve
On 29 Jan 2021, at 17:59, Tony Budak via OSList wrote:
No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with Harrison. This is a
very effective list serve. Thank you again, Harrison.
Cheers,
Tony
On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote:
Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated bulletin board. And for
sure it doesn't exist in 4 colors/touch screen. BUT it has probably
existed as long or longer than any competitors, is searchable, carries
the thinking/sweat/arguments of those who discovered living in Open
Space (that would be 1000's) and Harold (the most recent curator) has
done a marvelous job. Thanks. Could it be better? Sure... but it has
worked for ? (20??)years! And please don't fix it if it ain't broke...
ho
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:
Michael,
Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I could do
better. Thank you as well for helping out with the admin work for the
OSList.
I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the Archives. But
looking at my own stash of the emails, I counted 42.9k messages since
the first one in December of 1996 back in the old Boise State
University LISTSERV ([email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>) days.
|Harold |
On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:
Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re the only reason the list
still exists in this open, free, independent way.
And just so everyone can notice the scale of the thing, how many
messages have we posted here so far?
Cuz it’s not just about updating or swapping email tools, folks.
Harold has managed this so that we still have and can search every
message ever sent through the list. Amazing!
I know we passed 30000 some time ago but couldn’t guess what the total
is now. I can’t figure where to look it up anymore. Do you have that
number, Harold?
Thanks, Michael
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via OSList
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wrote:
Thank you Harold,
I love the simplicity that has been maintained for our email list, and
the independence to the extent possible for us to be in a platform
that supports us. Thank you for your work on this over many years, and
also to those who preceded you.
A super super simple way to pay attention to the list, and to follow
threads really really easily is to use the GREAT feature of the
archives http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]>. Every
post gets placed in the archives, the archives are searchable. When
something that is posted catches my attention, it is easy to go to the
archives to see what I may have missed in the thread and also
simultaneously by topic access what has been discussed in relation to
the topic over the years.
in genuine contact,
Birgitt
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On 29 Jan 2021, at 18:27, info via OSList wrote:
Hear hear.
Love it!
Tonnie
Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy
-------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
Van: Tony Budak via OSList <[email protected]>
Datum: 29-01-2021 17:59 (GMT+01:00)
Aan: Harrison Owen SR via OSList <[email protected]>
Cc: Tony Budak <[email protected]>
Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] This list serve is antiquated big time
No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with Harrison. This is a
very effective list serve. Thank you again, Harrison.
Cheers,
Tony
On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote:
Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated bulletin board. And
for sure it doesn't exist in 4 colors/touch screen. BUT it has
probably existed as long or longer than any competitors, is
searchable, carries the thinking/sweat/arguments of those who
discovered living in Open Space (that would be 1000's) and Harold
(the most recent curator) has done a marvelous job. Thanks. Could
it be better? Sure... but it has worked for ? (20??)years! And
please don't fix it if it ain't broke...
ho
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Michael,
Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I could
do better. Thank you as well for helping out with the admin
work for the OSList.
I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the Archives.
But looking at my own stash of the emails, I counted 42.9k
messages since the first one in December of 1996 back in the
old Boise State University LISTSERV ([email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>) days.
Harold
On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:
Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re the only reason the
list still exists in this open, free, independent way.
And just so everyone can notice the scale of the thing, how
many messages have we posted here so far?
Cuz it’s not just about updating or swapping email tools,
folks. Harold has managed this so that we still have and can
search every message ever sent through the list. Amazing!
I know we passed 30000 some time ago but couldn’t guess what
the total is now. I can’t figure where to look it up
anymore. Do you have that number, Harold?
Thanks, Michael
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via OSList
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thank you Harold,
I love the simplicity that has been maintained for our
email list, and the independence to the extent possible
for us to be in a platform that supports us. Thank you
for your work on this over many years, and also to those
who preceded you.
A super super simple way to pay attention to the list,
and to follow threads really really easily is to use the
GREAT feature of the archives
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]>.
Every post gets placed in the archives, the archives are
searchable. When something that is posted catches my
attention, it is easy to go to the archives to see what
I may have missed in the thread and also simultaneously
by topic access what has been discussed in relation to
the topic over the years.
in genuine contact,
Birgitt
Picture*
*
*Birgitt Williams*
*Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and
consultants *
*Specialist in organizational and systemic
transformation, leadership development, and the power of
nourishing a culture of leadership.*
www.dalarinternational.com
<http://www.dalarinternational.com>
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