From what I can glean in Bateson’s article and what I have heard about Warm Data, what happens does sound parallel to what occurs when people meet in Open Space.
I find her writing frustrating. But when one is attempting to give language to new ideas, it’s rough. The effort falls into a pattern she discusses: our tendency to want to relate to the ideas through habitual lenses. Sometimes more and different words can help. More often, it takes an embodied experience. Perhaps a Warm Data Lab? I find her insight that we need a word for life coalescing towards vitality in unseen ways intriguing. By naming it, I hope it will become more seen. Sounds like something we want to notice and grow. Thanks for sending the article Jeff. ________________________________ Peggy Holman Co-founder Journalism That Matters Bellevue, WA 98006 206-948-0432 www.journalismthatmatters.org www.peggyholman.com Twitter: @peggyholman JTM Twitter: @JTMStream Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com/> > On Nov 16, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for sharing this Jeff. I have known about Nora's work for sometime and > although I don't fully understand it yet I think what I do know of it, it's > great.). > > WHy does she choose the words she chooses? I think because this is how she > has come to an understanding about the simple truths that Warm Data works > with. God know we have some pretty funny language amongst us all to explain > things like "let people look after things they care about." But, Jeff, the > first piece you posted of hers makes a lot of sense to me and is a concise > description of Warm Data process, and is very helpful to me having an "aha" > about it. > > Chris > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 1:37 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > Also I note that Nora is still very early in the practice of a methodology > that she invented (I think.) > > Maybe it's like the first five-ten years of OST as folks were figuring out > what the hell this is all about... : ) > > And from the lens of an artist and family therapy researcher whose father was > Gregory Bateson. That makes sense to me... > > Warmly > Jeff > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 1:21 PM Jeff Aitken <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Hi Birgitt. My first guess is that it serves practitioners to be simple, > while it serves systems scientists to be complicated or complex. > > They are writing about living systems at all scales and making very subtle > distinctions. > > It may serve us practitioners to have some appreciation for the latter. "Your > mileage may vary" tho, as a friend says! > > Warmly > Jeff > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 1:10 PM Birgitt Williams <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Jeff..I don't understand why it serves to be so complicated? Why not simply > refer to seen and unseen? > > Birgitt > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 3:57 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > One more email - I was amiss to mention this new theory by Nora, without > defining the word she is introducing, and she finds occurring in Warm Data > Lab and I think is true in OST too. > > It is "a way to describe a life giving process, by which vitality, healing, > and creativity come into being by the coalescence of multiple unseen factors." > "Aphanipoiesis combines two words from ancient Greek to describe this way in > which life coalesces toward vitality in unseen ways. (Aphanis comes from a > Greek root meaning obscured, unseen, unnoticed; poiesis is from one meaning > to bring forth, to make.)" > > Yes it's an academic term, and is presented at a systems science conference > and in a journal article. > > Useful for practitioners to think about and to notice in our work? That's my > question for the oslist. > > It reminds me of Harrison's definition of "peace" in The Practice of Peace. > With an emphasis on the unseen, internal, very subtle shifts that take place > that are NOT reflected in proceedings and action plans. > > Warmly, Jeff. > > Reference: > > Bateson, N.,(2021). Aphanipoiesis. In Journal of the International Society > for the Systems Sciences, Proceedings of the 64th Annual Meeting of the ISSS, > Virtual (Vol. 1, №1) — under review. > > > > This work was presented at the Annual Biosemiotics Conference June 2021, the > Annual Conference of the International Society of Systems Sciences July 2021, > and the Annual conference of the Institute of General Semantics September > 2021. > > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 11:16 PM Jeff Aitken <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > As a refresher or quick intro to the process, Warm Data Lab starts with a > group of folks and a theme question. But the topics of conversation are > chosen in advance by sponsor and facilitator. Each breakout table (or area) > gets a topic written on a sign: which names a context from which to address > the theme question. > > So if the theme is drug abuse, the chosen wide variety of contexts might be: > education, prisons, public health, initiation, addiction, pharmaceuticals, > parenting, ceremony, etc. People go to the breakouts of their choice and stay > or move as they wish. The law of mobility is used. A closing circle might end > the event after some number of hours. > > It has some qualities of OST and World Cafe while being different. > > I've only been in one WDL so other folks might improve my description. > > Jeff > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 7:22 PM Jeff Aitken <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Where does systemic change take place? I am reflecting on earlier posts about > the Warm Data Lab and comparing - contrasting this work with other hosted > conversation processes like OST. > > What seems different - please correct this if it's wrong - is the level of > attention paid to the complex ways in which WDL might help bring about > change. Looking well beyond action plans and carefully harvested proceedings > etc. > > This may be a fruitful area of inquiry for OST folks. (The subject line here > is from a reference in a book by Nora Bateson's late father Gregory.) > > Nora Bateson just shared a video and long essay, coming out prior to her > essay being published soon in a journal. She is introducing a new term > "aphanipoiesis" to the conversation of systemic transformation. > > The essay is here: https://norabateson.medium.com/aphanipoiesis-96d8aed927bc > <https://norabateson.medium.com/aphanipoiesis-96d8aed927bc> > > Some teaser paragraphs for us. Can this also be said about OST, but we just > don't?? > "Rewilding the Interior > > > In the words of the Warm Data hosting theory, we tend the “about” so that > what is re-configured is in the “within.” It does not really matter what > people talk “about” in a Warm Data Lab. There is nothing to capture at that > level. What matters is the way the participants are internally sewing > together the different conversations and contexts. On a transcript this > information is inaccessible. > > "In the Warm Data processes, communication in explicit form is not held to be > the communication of interest. That level of conversation is there as a > skeleton, onto which the stories not told reshape the person who did not tell > them, the alterations in tone, the re-tilted perception is given free rein to > rub memories and stories against each other. One comment that comes up > repeatedly is, “Your story changed my story.” Through this > “side-by-side-ing,” stories told change stories almost told, and their > bearers are able to reshape their impressions in ways that are untamed. By > careful tending of the “about” and “within,” the rich world of memory and > story re-wilds. > > > "The gaps are where the hope of systemic transformation is waiting. In the > Warm Data processes, participants are given a structure to re-stitch, to > re-wild, to begin a new abductive process into these gaps. Again, by placing > the contexts of life side-by-side in new configurations, the aphanipoietic > processes are given room, without conscious purpose or goals or defined > outcomes, without scripts or roles or trends — to allow the tender new > beginnings of another abductive description to form mutually. > > "Through this work, I have found I needed this term to embark on a deeper > study of the importance of aphanipoiesis. The changes I witness occurring in > the Warm Data processes are completely unpredictable and profound. They > suggest ever more vividly that there is a real, if unseen, mingling of the > body, culture, education, family — and a whole batch of transcontextual > experience that is guiding all other actions. It is to this change that I > have devoted my efforts toward systemic transformation." > > Warmly, > Jeff > Yelamu / San Francisco > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]>_______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> > > -- > --- > CHRIS CORRIGAN > Facilitation - Training - Process Design - Strategy > Complexity - Art of Hosting > http://www.chriscorrigan.com <http://www.chriscorrigan.com/> > > Grateful to live on Nex̱wlélex̱wm (Bowen Island), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh territory, > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
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