On Nov 16, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList
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Thanks for sharing this Jeff. I have known about Nora's work
for sometime and although I don't fully understand it yet I
think what I do know of it, it's great.).
WHy does she choose the words she chooses? I think because
this is how she has come to an understanding about the simple
truths that Warm Data works with. God know we have some pretty
funny language amongst us all to explain things like "let
people look after things they care about." But, Jeff, the
first piece you posted of hers makes a lot of sense to me and
is a concise description of Warm Data process, and is very
helpful to me having an "aha" about it.
Chris
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 1:37 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList
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Also I note that Nora is still very early in the practice
of a methodology that she invented (I think.)
Maybe it's like the first five-ten years of OST as folks
were figuring out what the hell this is all about... : )
And from the lens of an artist and family therapy
researcher whose father was Gregory Bateson. That makes
sense to me...
Warmly
Jeff
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 1:21 PM Jeff Aitken
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wrote:
Hi Birgitt. My first guess is that it serves
practitioners to be simple, while it serves systems
scientists to be complicated or complex.
They are writing about living systems at all scales
and making very subtle distinctions.
It may serve us practitioners to have some
appreciation for the latter. "Your mileage may vary"
tho, as a friend says!
Warmly
Jeff
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 1:10 PM Birgitt Williams
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Jeff..I don't understand why it serves to be so
complicated? Why not simply refer to seen and unseen?
Birgitt
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 3:57 PM Jeff Aitken via
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One more email - I was amiss to mention this
new theory by Nora, without defining the word
she is introducing, and she finds occurring in
Warm Data Lab and I think is true in OST too.
It is "a way to describe a life giving
process, by which vitality, healing, and
creativity come into being by the coalescence
of multiple unseen factors."
"Aphanipoiesis combines two words from ancient
Greek to describe this way in which life
coalesces toward vitality in unseen ways.
(Aphanis comes from a Greek root meaning
obscured, unseen, unnoticed; poiesis is from
one meaning to bring forth, to make.)"
Yes it's an academic term, and is presented at
a systems science conference and in a journal
article.
Useful for practitioners to think about and to
notice in our work? That's my question for the
oslist.
It reminds me of Harrison's definition of
"peace" in The Practice of Peace. With an
emphasis on the unseen, internal, very subtle
shifts that take place that are NOT reflected
in proceedings and action plans.
Warmly, Jeff.
Reference:
Bateson, N.,(2021). Aphanipoiesis. In Journal
of the International Society for the Systems
Sciences, Proceedings of the 64th Annual
Meeting of the ISSS, Virtual (Vol. 1, №1) —
under review.
This work was presented at the Annual
Biosemiotics Conference June 2021, the Annual
Conference of the International Society of
Systems Sciences July 2021, and the Annual
conference of the Institute of General
Semantics September 2021.
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 11:16 PM Jeff Aitken
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As a refresher or quick intro to the
process, Warm Data Lab starts with a group
of folks and a theme question. But the
topics of conversation are chosen in
advance by sponsor and facilitator. Each
breakout table (or area) gets a topic
written on a sign: which names a context
from which to address the theme question.
So if the theme is drug abuse, the chosen
wide variety of contexts might be:
education, prisons, public health,
initiation, addiction, pharmaceuticals,
parenting, ceremony, etc. People go to the
breakouts of their choice and stay or move
as they wish. The law of mobility is used.
A closing circle might end the event after
some number of hours.
It has some qualities of OST and World
Cafe while being different.
I've only been in one WDL so other folks
might improve my description.
Jeff
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 7:22 PM Jeff Aitken
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Where does systemic change take place?
I am reflecting on earlier posts about
the Warm Data Lab and comparing -
contrasting this work with other
hosted conversation processes like OST.
What seems different - please correct
this if it's wrong - is the level of
attention paid to the complex ways in
which WDL might help bring about
change. Looking well beyond action
plans and carefully harvested
proceedings etc.
This may be a fruitful area of inquiry
for OST folks. (The subject line here
is from a reference in a book by Nora
Bateson's late father Gregory.)
Nora Bateson just shared a video and
long essay, coming out prior to her
essay being published soon in a
journal. She is introducing a new term
"aphanipoiesis" to the conversation of
systemic transformation.
The essay is here:
https://norabateson.medium.com/aphanipoiesis-96d8aed927bc
<https://norabateson.medium.com/aphanipoiesis-96d8aed927bc>
Some teaser paragraphs for us. Can
this also be said about OST, but we
just don't??
"Rewilding the Interior
In the words of the Warm Data hosting
theory, we tend the “about” so that
what is re-configured is in the
“within.” It does not really matter
what people talk “about” in a Warm
Data Lab. There is nothing to capture
at that level. What matters is the way
the participants are internally sewing
together the different conversations
and contexts. On a transcript this
information is inaccessible.
"In the Warm Data processes,
communication in explicit form is not
held to be the communication of
interest. That level of conversation
is there as a skeleton, onto which the
stories not told reshape the person
who did not tell them, the alterations
in tone, the re-tilted perception is
given free rein to rub memories and
stories against each other. One
comment that comes up repeatedly is,
“Your story changed my story.” Through
this “side-by-side-ing,” stories told
change stories almost told, and their
bearers are able to reshape their
impressions in ways that are untamed.
By careful tending of the “about” and
“within,” the rich world of memory and
story re-wilds.
"The gaps are where the hope of
systemic transformation is waiting. In
the Warm Data processes, participants
are given a structure to re-stitch, to
re-wild, to begin a new abductive
process into these gaps. Again, by
placing the contexts of life
side-by-side in new configurations,
the aphanipoietic processes are given
room, without conscious purpose or
goals or defined outcomes, without
scripts or roles or trends — to allow
the tender new beginnings of another
abductive description to form mutually.
"Through this work, I have found I
needed this term to embark on a deeper
study of the importance of
aphanipoiesis. The changes I witness
occurring in the Warm Data processes
are completely unpredictable and
profound. They suggest ever more
vividly that there is a real, if
unseen, mingling of the body, culture,
education, family — and a whole batch
of transcontextual experience that is
guiding all other actions. It is to
this change that I have devoted my
efforts toward systemic transformation."
Warmly,
Jeff
Yelamu / San Francisco
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