The reason I ask, about Nora getting at something new and different, is that I know seasoned veterans of Open Space who are very excited about Warm Data Labs.
Something seems new to them. (I will ask.) Jeff On Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 11:33 AM Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> wrote: > PS Chris - love what you shared. Already thinking of design ideas for that > badge... > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 10:52 AM Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> To come back around to Nora for a moment: She is exploring how a fresh >> new hypothesis gets created, one which can be a better fit to a complex >> situation in a time of crisis. >> >> Foundational to a new hypothesis is "the realm of unseen contributors >> coalescing to produce the foundations of hypothesis." >> >> She finds that by intentionally placing different contexts of life side >> by side in new configurations - literally doing so in the design of warm >> data labs - the tender shoots of new hypothesis formation are nurtured. >> >> My question: Is this a restatement of the notion that "U shaped" >> processes like Bohm dialogue or Open Space can foster conversation that >> deepens us beneath our long held assumptions, to explore fresh assumptions? >> (What some have called transformative learning, and what HHO originally >> called "crossing the open space"?) >> >> Or is Nora getting at something new and different? >> >> Nora and colleagues might or might not be versed in the theory and >> practice of what Peggy documented in The Change Handbook, with 18 and then >> 60+ different processes. >> >> We have kinda danced around this question, and I want to ask it more >> directly. >> >> Warmly >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 9:36 AM Chris Corrigan via OSList < >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >> >>> I think I have come to learn that all the work of an Open Space meeting >>> happens in the invitation, and the more personal and intentional the >>> better. Recently I had a client work for two months to get 20 very >>> powerful people in a room to talk about a major issue in the education >>> system, and the Open Space was only six hours, and my work was really only >>> 20 minutes of active facilitation. That to me is a mark of great >>> participation and a high chance for sustainability of the results. Hoping >>> one day I can coach a client in invitation so well that they don;t even >>> need a big face to face meeting, or at the very least, they don't need me >>> there. At that point I will call it "Achieving a Harrison" and award >>> myself a badge. And then go and take a nap. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 12:15 AM Thomas Herrmann via OSList < >>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >>> >>>> I love this way of clarifying how you can look for inviting the whole >>>> system, Peggy! Thanks for sharing! I will make sure I incorporate it in my >>>> practice as I think it helps the thinking about how to spread “the >>>> irresistible invitation”. And I also agree its great to involve as many of >>>> these stakeholders early in the process, especially as there is often a low >>>> level of trust between them. >>>> >>>> Usually I invite my sponsors quite clearly to not jump up and raise >>>> their topics but wait and see what happens, I assure them that I will be >>>> very clear to give space for everyone and not closing the agenda creation >>>> without very clear last opportunities – so they can rest assured that all >>>> of their important topics can be posted. So if they miss anything at the >>>> end, they can add. I agree with others, they are mostly surprised by the >>>> richness of the agenda created by participants. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> One piece I have included in my designs the last years is to have a >>>> “sync-meeting” some time the last week before the OST, to give them an >>>> opportunity to share their hopes and fears for the upcoming OST and clarify >>>> any practicalities they may be wondering about. This is much appreciated >>>> and givs them more of a feeling of safety and it increases their curiosity, >>>> openness and peace 😊. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> With appreciation for all of the wisdom in this circle >>>> >>>> Thomas Herrmann >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Från:* OSList <oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org> *För *Peggy >>>> Holman via OSList >>>> *Skickat:* den 18 november 2021 23:08 >>>> *Till:* Open Space Listserv <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> *Kopia:* Peggy Holman <pe...@peggyholman.com> >>>> *Ämne:* Re: [OSList] Where angels fear to tread >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Like Michael, I have had the experience of leaders making a list behind >>>> the scenes and being surprised that participants not only posted everything >>>> on their list but also things that they hadn’t thought of that turned out >>>> to matter to them. And, of course, the experience of witnessing the >>>> passion, interest, and creativity of people often surprises everyone who is >>>> in an Open Space meeting for the first time. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jeff, to your question about requisite variety of topics in an Open >>>> Space, I see that as a matter of being mindful about invitation. The >>>> biggest investment of preparation time for the Open Spaces I’m involved >>>> with are inviting, as Harrison would say, “the people who care.” Whomever >>>> I’m working with, I encourage them to do the work of thinking through, >>>> given their purpose, who makes up the system — who are the people who care? >>>> In many cases, that may include involving a microcosm in shaping the >>>> organizing question and invitation so that it resonates with the people of >>>> the system. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I take my cue on how to think about who makes up the system from Marv >>>> Weisbord and Sandra Janoff’s rubric of inviting the people who “ARE IN” — >>>> with *A*uthority, *R*esources, *E*xpertise, *I*nformation, and * N*eed. >>>> I also suggest an overlay for considering demographic diversity. For >>>> thinking about that, I draw from the Maynard Institute’s “Fault lines” - >>>> race, class, gender, geography, and generation and two “fissures” - >>>> politics and religion. Not all dimensions apply to every situation but >>>> bringing them up enables the people planning the Open Space to make a >>>> conscious choice about whom they invite and how. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This is a long-winded way of saying that my experience is that by doing >>>> the work to invite a requisite variety of people, a requisite variety of >>>> topics will show up. And then, to the principle of whoever comes is the >>>> right people, I let go of worrying about it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Birgitt — to words and embodied experience, yes you are saying what I >>>> meant: *it is not the words used that are most likely to help, rather >>>> the embodied experience*. For example, describing the experience of >>>> Open Space and what it produces can be enough for some. For most of us, >>>> hearing a description or even seeing a video doesn’t come close to being >>>> there. It is a multi-dimensional experience that involves, head, heart, >>>> body, spirit. Rarely does this come across in a description. A story might >>>> communicate more of it. But I’m guessing most people discover some aspect >>>> they hadn’t expected from just reading, hearing, or watching a video about >>>> it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Appreciatively, >>>> >>>> Peggy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> Peggy Holman >>>> Co-founder >>>> Journalism That Matters >>>> 15347 SE 49th Place >>>> Bellevue, WA 98006 >>>> 206-948-0432 >>>> www.journalismthatmatters.org >>>> www.peggyholman.com >>>> Twitter: @peggyholman >>>> JTM Twitter: @JTMStream >>>> >>>> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into >>>> Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 17, 2021, at 1:52 PM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList < >>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Birgitt, >>>> >>>> your two sentences: >>>> >>>> "My perspective: following the principles of OST, spirit shows up in >>>> the moment, inspiring people to post exactly the topics that need to be >>>> posted at that moment in time. This dynamic is altered when relying on >>>> anyone to pre-post topics, or to set meta-topics, catering to limitation >>>> rather than abundance of possibilities." >>>> >>>> had some memories come up. >>>> >>>> In at least three of the ost events I was involved in it turned out >>>> that the sponsors prepared a set of "issuse" they felt should be part of >>>> the event before the event... in case nobody would post them. >>>> To the surprises of the sponsors all their issues were posted by the >>>> participants. >>>> In addition, they themselves experienced that other issues entered >>>> their mind during the process that they then posted. >>>> In many other ost events sponors were very surprised about the broad >>>> passion, interest, creativity, etc. and most of all selforganisation that >>>> manifested... >>>> >>>> For what actually happens when ost is part of the everyday life of an >>>> organisation over a number of years with a special focus on the vast system >>>> of that enterprise have a look here >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Practicing-Open-Space-Our-First-Ten-Years-E-Book >>>> >>>> >>>> in English, French, Polish, Spanish and Chinese ... translated from the >>>> German Original by ost-colleagues all of you know >>>> >>>> Cheers from Berlin >>>> mmp >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 17.11.2021 um 21:32 schrieb Birgitt Williams via OSList: >>>> >>>> Jeff...thanks for sharing the article and for the discussion that >>>> emanated from the question you posed to the OS list. I have enjoyed the >>>> responses and look forward to more conversation showing up. You have added >>>> more great questions. >>>> You asked:Do we assume that the passion and responsibility of a >>>> gathered group will create the requisite variety of topics/contexts to >>>> generate excellent Warm Data from a theme question, and foster these unseen >>>> transcontextual sources of systems changing creativity? >>>> Or does the sponsor need to think up and post the outlying >>>> topics/contexts to invite that fruitful variety? >>>> What are the upsides and downsides of having a passionate advocate post >>>> and host each topic of conversation? What topics don't get posted, and does >>>> that limit the potential and health of the system? >>>> My perspective: following the principles of OST, spirit shows up in the >>>> moment, inspiring people to post exactly the topics that need to be posted >>>> at that moment in time. This dynamic is altered when relying on anyone to >>>> pre-post topics, or to set meta-topics, catering to limitation rather than >>>> abundance of possibilities. >>>> Peggy...I am intrigued by your sentences "Sometimes more and different >>>> words can help. More often, it takes an embodied experience." I would like >>>> to understand more. My current understanding is that it is not the words >>>> used that are most likely to help, rather the embodied experience. Is this >>>> what you mean? >>>> in genuine contact, >>>> Birgitt >>>> Picture* >>>> * >>>> *Birgitt Williams* >>>> *Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants * >>>> *Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership >>>> development, and the power of nourishing a culture of leadership.* >>>> www.dalarinternational.com <http://www.dalarinternational.com> >>>> >> Learn More & Register < >>>> http://www.dalarinternational.com/upcoming-workshops/> for any of our >>>> upcoming workshops here. >>>> PO Box 19373, Raleigh, NC, USA 27613 >>>> Phone: 01-919-522-7750 >>>> Like us on Facebook < >>>> https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=6677c35b38&e=e7zyhHfiqG >>>> > >>>> Connect on LinkedIn < >>>> https://dalarinternational.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=35ed818c946a88ba7344da05f&id=c26173f86b&e=e7zyhHfiqG >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:31 AM Jeff Aitken via OSList < >>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>> wrote: >>>> Now I am considering whether there is a (hopefully) funny joke >>>> lurking here somewhere. >>>> The facilitator asked the sponsor, "do you want a book of >>>> proceedings created from your event?" And the sponsor said "no, I'm >>>> going for the aphanipoesis, but thanks." >>>> But seriously folks, do we assume that the passion and >>>> responsibility of a gathered group will create the requisite variety >>>> of topics/contexts to generate excellent Warm Data from a theme >>>> question, and foster these unseen transcontextual sources of systems >>>> changing creativity? >>>> Or does the sponsor need to think up and post the outlying >>>> topics/contexts to invite that fruitful variety? >>>> What are the upsides and downsides of having a passionate advocate >>>> post and host each topic of conversation? What topics don't get >>>> posted, and does that limit the potential and health of the system? >>>> What can the OST methodology teach the WDL methodology, and vice >>>> versa? >>>> Early morning questions, >>>> Jeff >>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 5:45 PM Peggy Holman via OSList >>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>> wrote: >>>> From what I can glean in Bateson’s article and what I have >>>> heard about Warm Data, what happens does sound parallel to what >>>> occurs when people meet in Open Space. >>>> I find her writing frustrating. But when one is attempting to >>>> give language to new ideas, it’s rough. The effort falls into a >>>> pattern she discusses: our tendency to want to relate to the >>>> ideas through habitual lenses. Sometimes more and different >>>> words can help. More often, it takes an embodied experience. >>>> Perhaps a Warm Data Lab? >>>> I find her insight that we need a word for life coalescing >>>> towards vitality in unseen ways intriguing. By naming it, I hope >>>> it will become more seen. Sounds like something we want to >>>> notice and grow. >>>> Thanks for sending the article Jeff. >>>> ________________________________ >>>> Peggy Holman >>>> Co-founder >>>> Journalism That Matters >>>> Bellevue, WA 98006 >>>> 206-948-0432 >>>> www.journalismthatmatters.org < >>>> http://www.journalismthatmatters.org> >>>> www.peggyholman.com <http://www.peggyholman.com> >>>> Twitter: @peggyholman >>>> JTM Twitter: @JTMStream >>>> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval >>>> into Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com> >>>> >>>> On Nov 16, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList >>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks for sharing this Jeff. I have known about Nora's work >>>> for sometime and although I don't fully understand it yet I >>>> think what I do know of it, it's great.). >>>> >>>> WHy does she choose the words she chooses? I think because >>>> this is how she has come to an understanding about the simple >>>> truths that Warm Data works with. God know we have some pretty >>>> funny language amongst us all to explain things like "let >>>> people look after things they care about." But, Jeff, the >>>> first piece you posted of hers makes a lot of sense to me and >>>> is a concise description of Warm Data process, and is very >>>> helpful to me having an "aha" about it. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 1:37 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList >>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Also I note that Nora is still very early in the practice >>>> of a methodology that she invented (I think.) >>>> >>>> Maybe it's like the first five-ten years of OST as folks >>>> were figuring out what the hell this is all about... : ) >>>> >>>> And from the lens of an artist and family therapy >>>> researcher whose father was Gregory Bateson. That makes >>>> sense to me... >>>> >>>> Warmly >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 1:21 PM Jeff Aitken >>>> <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com <mailto:r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com >>>> <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Birgitt. My first guess is that it serves >>>> practitioners to be simple, while it serves systems >>>> scientists to be complicated or complex. >>>> >>>> They are writing about living systems at all scales >>>> and making very subtle distinctions. >>>> >>>> It may serve us practitioners to have some >>>> appreciation for the latter. "Your mileage may vary" >>>> tho, as a friend says! >>>> >>>> Warmly >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 1:10 PM Birgitt Williams >>>> <birgittwilli...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:birgittwilli...@gmail.com >>>> <birgittwilli...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Jeff..I don't understand why it serves to be so >>>> complicated? Why not simply refer to seen and unseen? >>>> >>>> Birgitt >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 3:57 PM Jeff Aitken via >>>> OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> One more email - I was amiss to mention this >>>> new theory by Nora, without defining the word >>>> she is introducing, and she finds occurring in >>>> Warm Data Lab and I think is true in OST too. >>>> >>>> It is "a way to describe a life giving >>>> process, by which vitality, healing, and >>>> creativity come into being by the coalescence >>>> of multiple unseen factors." >>>> >>>> "Aphanipoiesis combines two words from ancient >>>> Greek to describe this way in which life >>>> coalesces toward vitality in unseen ways. >>>> (Aphanis comes from a Greek root meaning >>>> obscured, unseen, unnoticed; poiesis is from >>>> one meaning to bring forth, to make.)" >>>> >>>> Yes it's an academic term, and is presented at >>>> a systems science conference and in a journal >>>> article. >>>> >>>> Useful for practitioners to think about and to >>>> notice in our work? That's my question for the >>>> oslist. >>>> >>>> It reminds me of Harrison's definition of >>>> "peace" in The Practice of Peace. With an >>>> emphasis on the unseen, internal, very subtle >>>> shifts that take place that are NOT reflected >>>> in proceedings and action plans. >>>> >>>> Warmly, Jeff. >>>> >>>> Reference: >>>> >>>> Bateson, N.,(2021). Aphanipoiesis. In Journal >>>> of the International Society for the Systems >>>> Sciences, Proceedings of the 64th Annual >>>> Meeting of the ISSS, Virtual (Vol. 1, №1) — >>>> under review. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This work was presented at the Annual >>>> Biosemiotics Conference June 2021, the Annual >>>> Conference of the International Society of >>>> Systems Sciences July 2021, and the Annual >>>> conference of the Institute of General >>>> Semantics September 2021. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 11:16 PM Jeff Aitken >>>> <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com >>>> <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> As a refresher or quick intro to the >>>> process, Warm Data Lab starts with a group >>>> of folks and a theme question. But the >>>> topics of conversation are chosen in >>>> advance by sponsor and facilitator. Each >>>> breakout table (or area) gets a topic >>>> written on a sign: which names a context >>>> from which to address the theme question. >>>> >>>> So if the theme is drug abuse, the chosen >>>> wide variety of contexts might be: >>>> education, prisons, public health, >>>> initiation, addiction, pharmaceuticals, >>>> parenting, ceremony, etc. People go to the >>>> breakouts of their choice and stay or move >>>> as they wish. The law of mobility is used. >>>> A closing circle might end the event after >>>> some number of hours. >>>> >>>> It has some qualities of OST and World >>>> Cafe while being different. >>>> >>>> I've only been in one WDL so other folks >>>> might improve my description. >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 7:22 PM Jeff Aitken >>>> <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com >>>> <r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Where does systemic change take place? >>>> I am reflecting on earlier posts about >>>> the Warm Data Lab and comparing - >>>> contrasting this work with other >>>> hosted conversation processes like OST. >>>> >>>> What seems different - please correct >>>> this if it's wrong - is the level of >>>> attention paid to the complex ways in >>>> which WDL might help bring about >>>> change. Looking well beyond action >>>> plans and carefully harvested >>>> proceedings etc. >>>> >>>> This may be a fruitful area of inquiry >>>> for OST folks. (The subject line here >>>> is from a reference in a book by Nora >>>> Bateson's late father Gregory.) >>>> >>>> Nora Bateson just shared a video and >>>> long essay, coming out prior to her >>>> essay being published soon in a >>>> journal. She is introducing a new term >>>> "aphanipoiesis" to the conversation of >>>> systemic transformation. >>>> >>>> The essay is here: >>>> >>>> https://norabateson.medium.com/aphanipoiesis-96d8aed927bc >>>> < >>>> https://norabateson.medium.com/aphanipoiesis-96d8aed927bc> >>>> >>>> Some teaser paragraphs for us. Can >>>> this also be said about OST, but we >>>> just don't?? >>>> >>>> "Rewilding the Interior >>>> >>>> >>>> In the words of the Warm Data hosting >>>> theory, we tend the “about” so that >>>> what is re-configured is in the >>>> “within.” It does not really matter >>>> what people talk “about” in a Warm >>>> Data Lab. There is nothing to capture >>>> at that level. What matters is the way >>>> the participants are internally sewing >>>> together the different conversations >>>> and contexts. On a transcript this >>>> information is inaccessible. >>>> >>>> "In the Warm Data processes, >>>> communication in explicit form is not >>>> held to be the communication of >>>> interest. That level of conversation >>>> is there as a skeleton, onto which the >>>> stories not told reshape the person >>>> who did not tell them, the alterations >>>> in tone, the re-tilted perception is >>>> given free rein to rub memories and >>>> stories against each other. One >>>> comment that comes up repeatedly is, >>>> “Your story changed my story.” Through >>>> this “side-by-side-ing,” stories told >>>> change stories almost told, and their >>>> bearers are able to reshape their >>>> impressions in ways that are untamed. >>>> By careful tending of the “about” and >>>> “within,” the rich world of memory and >>>> story re-wilds. >>>> >>>> >>>> "The gaps are where the hope of >>>> systemic transformation is waiting. In >>>> the Warm Data processes, participants >>>> are given a structure to re-stitch, to >>>> re-wild, to begin a new abductive >>>> process into these gaps. Again, by >>>> placing the contexts of life >>>> side-by-side in new configurations, >>>> the aphanipoietic processes are given >>>> room, without conscious purpose or >>>> goals or defined outcomes, without >>>> scripts or roles or trends — to allow >>>> the tender new beginnings of another >>>> abductive description to form mutually. >>>> >>>> "Through this work, I have found I >>>> needed this term to embark on a deeper >>>> study of the importance of >>>> aphanipoiesis. The changes I witness >>>> occurring in the Warm Data processes >>>> are completely unpredictable and >>>> profound. They suggest ever more >>>> vividly that there is a real, if >>>> unseen, mingling of the body, culture, >>>> education, family — and a whole batch >>>> of transcontextual experience that is >>>> guiding all other actions. It is to >>>> this change that I have devoted my >>>> efforts toward systemic transformation." >>>> >>>> Warmly, >>>> Jeff >>>> Yelamu / San Francisco >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to >>>> OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <OSList@lists.openspacetech.org>> >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>> oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org>> >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click >>>> below: >>>> >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> < >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>> >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> < >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <OSList@lists.openspacetech.org>> >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>> oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org>> >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> < >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Michael M Pannwitz >>>> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin >>>> +49 30 7728000 mmpannw...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> --- >>> CHRIS CORRIGAN >>> Facilitation - Training - Process Design - Strategy >>> Complexity - Art of Hosting >>> http://www.chriscorrigan.com >>> >>> Grateful to live on Nex̱wlélex̱wm (Bowen Island), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh >>> territory, >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> >>
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