Dear Jeff,

all the best to you in 2022 and Merry Xmas.

I wonder in which way the assumption
"OST and other participatory methods are intended to remedy ..."
is congruent with the assumption that OST is not intending to remedy any particular situation.

As ost facilitator my assumption is that OST is an effective approach to expand time and space for the unfolding of selforganisation and that control accomplishes the opposite... and that it is utterly impossible to know what the forces of selforganisation will bring about.

Isn't that what makes the OST approach unique?

Greetings from Berlin
mmp


Am 13.12.2021 um 03:38 schrieb Jeff Aitken via OSList:
So yes, my question wasn't fully formed until now:

I am fascinated that folks who are passionate about Open Space can be in differing "poles" of the "polarity" in the USA, and also be able to show how OS is a kind of guide to understanding their own view.

Which leads me to wonder if good old OS can help unlock insights into the situation in a fruitful way.

Being USA centric in an international list has its issues, but any insight from outside the USA is welcome and important, including a request to keep it among us folk.

We may not want to "go there" here, and that would be fine, but i would feel remiss not to mention it, as 2022 draws near. It will be a big year in these parts.

Warmly,
Jeff

On Sun, Dec 12, 2021, 2:08 PM Jeff Aitken <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Yes, it seems that the paradigm of authoritarian leadership is
    exactly what OST and other participatory methods are intended to
    remedy.

    The postwar work in social systems by folks like Kurt Levin and
    others were a response to the tragic origins of the second world
    war, along with the outdated mechanistic notions of human
    organization. OD work and later OT work like Open Space have this in
    their genealogy.

    I'm so curious how we may have differing perspectives on where such
    authoritarian impulses are present now, and what to do about them.

    Not to "go there" right here and now, but to invite an inquiry into
    the resources of this legacy of theory and practice as a guide for
    muddling into the near future.

    Maybe skilled hosting would be called for in such a case. (Not
    volunteering, as I am surely holding one of the "poles".)

    Warmly,
    Jeff


    On Sun, Dec 12, 2021, 12:28 PM Marc C. Trudeau via OSList
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Mark, check out Daniel Mezick’s A-1 Meeting, as a way to give
        the bosses a taste and help them test their own resolve. You
        could build the A-1 around the OST Principles and Law. Odds are,
        some of the bosses really are Open.

        Peace,

        Marc


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        On Dec 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        
        Greetings!!

Bosses that SAY they are Open are perhaps ALL talk... THEREFORE, Beware of Bad Bosses.  This is My New 1st Law of
        OST, unwritten and unspoken, of course. In my humble (or not
        so humble) opinion, All believers in and Facilitators of Open
        Space Technology must understand times have changed. In the
        US, we now live in Retaliation Nation. Don't believe it, just
        look at any and all the news. One smear campaign after
        another. Yet, the great USA is the most open and envied
        society on earth, right? Before leading your Open Spacers into
        the Tiger's Den, prior to the invitation stage and setting up
        the theme, i suggest you first vet the true intent of the
        bosses.  Look at their past behavior and figure out whether
        they are open or if they repeat past behavior to pounce on
        open and honest people they consider Snitches.  If a boss is
        dishonest and fake, do not consider honoring them with the
        miracle of OST.  They don't deserve trust and will crush
        criticism like a bug.

        Take it from today's Dilbert Cartoon:

        Dilbert holds an Open Meeting... Dilbert says...We won a
        guvmint contract to build a CO2 capture machine. We are only
        brainstorming so remember, there are no bad ideas... Alice
        says...we could capture CO2 with a net. Aren't you going to
        write that down?  Dilbert says...No, I'm fairly confident I'll
        remember that suggestion for the rest of my life... then Wally
        says...we could attract the CO2 with some sort of food... then
        Dilbert says...Forget it. You're all idiots. I'll just design
        the stupid machine myself... As employees exit the meeting,
        Alice says...that was fun.  Then Wally says...
        I love brainstorming!

        Wishing Peace to the Peacemakers and TO ALL those you serve.

        Mark Carmel, OST Facilitator
        Collaborator King
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        Circle of Champions
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