Hi Michael. Yes that's an interesting framing thank you. I am partial to the "chaordic path" taught in the Art of Hosting. This short video with a group of trainers talks about control, order, and chaos, and the sweet spot of leadership found in the dance between order and chaos.
https://youtu.be/B8SNaAH20fk To try a first response to your question, I might say that "learning to trust the forces of self organization" is a remedy for institutional or personal habits of control. With my best for your holydays as well, Warmly, Jeff On Mon, Dec 13, 2021, 12:29 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList < [email protected]> wrote: > Dear Jeff, > > all the best to you in 2022 and Merry Xmas. > > I wonder in which way the assumption > "OST and other participatory methods are intended to remedy ..." > is congruent with the assumption that OST is not intending to remedy any > particular situation. > > As ost facilitator my assumption is that OST is an effective approach to > expand time and space for the unfolding of selforganisation and that > control accomplishes the opposite... and that it is utterly impossible > to know what the forces of selforganisation will bring about. > > Isn't that what makes the OST approach unique? > > Greetings from Berlin > mmp > > > Am 13.12.2021 um 03:38 schrieb Jeff Aitken via OSList: > > So yes, my question wasn't fully formed until now: > > > > I am fascinated that folks who are passionate about Open Space can be in > > differing "poles" of the "polarity" in the USA, and also be able to show > > how OS is a kind of guide to understanding their own view. > > > > Which leads me to wonder if good old OS can help unlock insights into > > the situation in a fruitful way. > > > > Being USA centric in an international list has its issues, but any > > insight from outside the USA is welcome and important, including a > > request to keep it among us folk. > > > > We may not want to "go there" here, and that would be fine, but i would > > feel remiss not to mention it, as 2022 draws near. It will be a big year > > in these parts. > > > > Warmly, > > Jeff > > > > On Sun, Dec 12, 2021, 2:08 PM Jeff Aitken <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Yes, it seems that the paradigm of authoritarian leadership is > > exactly what OST and other participatory methods are intended to > > remedy. > > > > The postwar work in social systems by folks like Kurt Levin and > > others were a response to the tragic origins of the second world > > war, along with the outdated mechanistic notions of human > > organization. OD work and later OT work like Open Space have this in > > their genealogy. > > > > I'm so curious how we may have differing perspectives on where such > > authoritarian impulses are present now, and what to do about them. > > > > Not to "go there" right here and now, but to invite an inquiry into > > the resources of this legacy of theory and practice as a guide for > > muddling into the near future. > > > > Maybe skilled hosting would be called for in such a case. (Not > > volunteering, as I am surely holding one of the "poles".) > > > > Warmly, > > Jeff > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 12, 2021, 12:28 PM Marc C. Trudeau via OSList > > <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Mark, check out Daniel Mezick’s A-1 Meeting, as a way to give > > the bosses a taste and help them test their own resolve. You > > could build the A-1 around the OST Principles and Law. Odds are, > > some of the bosses really are Open. > > > > Peace, > > > > Marc > > > > > > Marc Trudeau > > mobile 774-641-8302 <tel:774-641-8302> > > > > LikeBreathin.com <http://likebreathin.com/> > > > > > > > > Effective teamwork and team leadership feel nearly effortless, > > Like Breathin’. Partner with us to experience how. > > > >> On Dec 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList > >> <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Greetings!! > >> > >> Bosses that SAY they are Open are perhaps ALL talk... > >> THEREFORE, Beware of Bad Bosses. This is My New 1st Law of > >> OST, unwritten and unspoken, of course. In my humble (or not > >> so humble) opinion, All believers in and Facilitators of Open > >> Space Technology must understand times have changed. In the > >> US, we now live in Retaliation Nation. Don't believe it, just > >> look at any and all the news. One smear campaign after > >> another. Yet, the great USA is the most open and envied > >> society on earth, right? Before leading your Open Spacers into > >> the Tiger's Den, prior to the invitation stage and setting up > >> the theme, i suggest you first vet the true intent of the > >> bosses. Look at their past behavior and figure out whether > >> they are open or if they repeat past behavior to pounce on > >> open and honest people they consider Snitches. If a boss is > >> dishonest and fake, do not consider honoring them with the > >> miracle of OST. They don't deserve trust and will crush > >> criticism like a bug. > >> > >> Take it from today's Dilbert Cartoon: > >> > >> Dilbert holds an Open Meeting... Dilbert says...We won a > >> guvmint contract to build a CO2 capture machine. We are only > >> brainstorming so remember, there are no bad ideas... Alice > >> says...we could capture CO2 with a net. Aren't you going to > >> write that down? Dilbert says...No, I'm fairly confident I'll > >> remember that suggestion for the rest of my life... then Wally > >> says...we could attract the CO2 with some sort of food... then > >> Dilbert says...Forget it. You're all idiots. I'll just design > >> the stupid machine myself... As employees exit the meeting, > >> Alice says...that was fun. Then Wally says... > >> I love brainstorming! > >> > >> Wishing Peace to the Peacemakers and TO ALL those you serve. > >> > >> Mark Carmel, OST Facilitator > >> Collaborator King > >> Circle of Synergy > >> Circle of Champions > >> Circle of Peace > >> Chief cook and bottle washer... > >> _______________________________________________ > >> OSList mailing list > >> To post send emails to [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> To unsubscribe send an email to > >> [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]> > >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >> < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> > >> Past archives can be viewed here: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> > > Past archives can be viewed here: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > -- > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin > +49 30 7728000 [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
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