Hi Poutnik.
Good list of definitions.  Thanks.
Paul W
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On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 4:12:03 PM UTC, Poutnik wrote:
>
> You may mix the meaning of GPS and GPX.
> You may also mix the meaning of GPS track and GPX track.
>
> GPS is a device aware of GPS guidance system ( whatever of used satellite 
> systems).
> GPS is sometimes  meant as a FPS aware smartphone application, able to 
> provide location and navigation.
>
> GPX is XML based open text data format to store POIs (waypoints, 
> favourites), routes and tracks.
> Route = planned journey = is a list of ( usually sparse and important ) 
> start/destination and intermediate points and info for a navigating person ,
> later such a data for a GPS navigation application.
> Track = record of passed journey = is a list of recorded passed positions, 
> along with timestamps and optionally additional data like altitude or 
> course.
>
> GPS track is real track in sense of recorded physical movement.
>
> GPX track MAY BE a real track in sense of recorded physical movement,
> but as well it may be a route in sense of planned movement.
>
> Many planning application providing GPX file provide a detailed route,
> that is formally, according to GPX specifications, track, 
> but semantically and by its usage a route.
>
> Like BRouter GPX, of GPX generated e.g. via MapQuest in Locus, 
> if exported from the Locus.  
> ( e.g. the average trackpoint distance of BRouter GPX is typically 50 m )
>
> BTW, the MapQuest has very verbosely described 
> its navigation points.
>
> So one thing is internal format of the GPS file ( track vs route )
> Another thing is how it is created ( planning = route, recording  - track )
>
>
> Dne 03/12/2016 v 16:48 Mo Re napsal(a):
>
> someone wrote this in another forum regarding a similar problem: 
>
> "Maybe you already know this, but loading GPX files containing tracks is 
> not going to result in any device giving you turn by turn instructions. The 
> tracks are nothing more than breadcrumbs dropped on a map and the GPS has 
> no knowledge if you're following them or not. Tracks can be converted to 
> routes in Basecamp to get turn by turn guidance but I've never felt the 
> need to do that even having ridden many thousands of miles with track 
> guidance over the past couple of years.
>
> We rode over 6,000 miles of the TAT and over 2,000 miles of my own track 
> route from Georgia to NY - all just using tracks loaded in Garmin Zumo GPS 
> (actually BMW Nav IV and NAV V devices). 
>
> Anytime you introduce routing/rerouting into your guidance you run the 
> risk of the GPS sending you somewhere other than where you precisely wanted 
> to be. You can fix that with via points but if your track-->route 
> conversion is for a long distance, that's going to be a lot of hassle to 
> check it all along the way. You'll have to decide for yourself if it's 
> worth it.
>
> I thought you CAN get turn by turn on a gps track???
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 2:20:27 PM UTC-5, Mo Re wrote: 
>>
>> I must begin by saying I dug through the reviews and specs of a few 
>> android apps and tried to filter down to the best and this is the best 
>> imho.  Only Backcountry navigator has more map options but it is more 
>> complex and will not do turn by turn routing at all. 
>>
>> OsmAnd+ 2.4.7 android, navigation set to car and offline vector maps 
>> loaded of 2 states I was traveling.
>>
>> So I began a motorcycle trip yesterday morning by navigating to a gpx 
>> track I had imported.  See attached.  When I got close it started sending 
>> me around in circles?....one way then the next...it was soo strange....then 
>> it said "in 1 mile make a u-turn" when I could have done it right there as 
>> I was on a 20' wide gravel road???...then I ended up turning of turn by 
>> turn and following the dot to the the track line which was not precise and 
>> had be backtracking a few times for mised turns.
>>
>> 1.  Is this just the fact that the gps track is using many dirt roads and 
>> not paved?
>>
>> 2.  Is osmand just not good with turn by turn routing to an imported gpx 
>> track?
>>
>> 3.  Is there other software, plugins or modes that can do this 
>> better???...I can live without the voice guidance if the display is correct 
>> in showing at least a rough estimate of how far to next turn and turn 
>> direction?
>>
>> 4.  Is there anywhere that explains the other navigation services, ie 
>> YOURS, OSRM, Straight Line and if they are useful and work offline?
>>
>> tia,
>>
>>
>>
>>
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