well there is something going on with brouter and my phone in the sense 
that a 22 minute trip in mapquest changes to 9 hrs using brouter in both 
locus and osmand and the icon is the little racecar...ie car. 

On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 4:50:32 AM UTC-5, Poutnik wrote:
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> On 11/29/2016 10:58 PM, Mo Re wrote: 
> > well I attempted to use locus with brouter today to go 14 miles in new 
> > york city but for some strange reason I could not get it in car mode 
> > even though it says car mode.  Do you have to select car mode before you 
> > download the files in brouter android?....maybe I only downloaded the 
> > walking modes because it noted 14 hrs instead of 22 min?  When changed 
> > to mapquest navigation it was correct in locus. 
>
> You should know the BRouter does not provide estimated time of arrival 
> (ETA). Locus calculates ETA in such a case from the average speed in 
> last few minutes. 
>
> Personally, I often estimate ETA by launching Brouter directly 
> and determining the rough ETA from the total distance (TD) and the 
> filtered ascend (FA). E.g for a bicycle it may be like 
> ETA = current time + TD[km]/20[km/h] + FA[m]/400[m/h] 
>
> There are some ideas evaluated at the Locus forum, 
> like estimation of "nominal time profile of the track", 
> based on the elevation profile, and correnting of this nominal ETA 
> by deviations from it. but this is not going to be implemented in near 
> future. 
>
> what exactly do you mean you cannot get in a car mode ? 
> Profiles of all modes are included in the Brouter package. 
> you may also want some custom profiles. 
> https://github.com/poutnikl/Brouter-profiles/wiki 
>
>
> > 
> > Time to relook at osmand.  The possibility of changing the 2 items "pass 
> > along entire track" and "calculate osmand route for first and last route 
> > segment" as noted in this thread might make osmand behave on this gps 
> > track so I reloaded osmand. 
> > 
> > I must say osmand appears much simpler and more elegant and better maps 
> > than locus but I believe locus to be more powerful. 
>
> One has often choose between simplicity and features. 
> Locus has some learning curve. 
> Locus uses MapsForge compatible maps, either its own LoMaps, 
> Either free one from OpenAndroMaps. 
>
> What is very important is there are multiple high quality rendering 
> themes, for all major transportation modes, from cars to alpine hiking. 
>
> > 
> > So correct me if I'm wrong but osmand has navigation built in to the 
> > offline vector maps but possibly not as powerful "hinting" for 
> > offroad/remote riding and if voice prompts and turn distance and 
> > direction are more important then maybe adding brouter to osmand might 
> > be the best combination for me since I'm not a power user. 
>
> With OSMAnd, you have 2 offline choices, native and BRouter routing. 
> When you get more experinced, either with OSMAnd or LocusMap, 
> you can choose ready to use custom BRouter routing profiles, 
> or create your own ones, taylored to your preferences. 
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