Hi Manav,

With this new draft, since the sequence number MUST be strictly increasing,
I think using the clock may no longer be an option. Also, unplanned GR can
never be supported since at RouterDeadInterval, the rebooted router will be
declared down and there would be no use in processing the Grace LSAs after
that. Would this not be a significant restriction ? Maybe we can find a
solution for this too....

Regardsm
Srini. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bhatia, Manav (Manav) [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:18 PM
To: Srinivasan K L; 'Alan Davey'; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [OSPF] Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3

Hi Srini,

This problem is not unique to this solution. As per RFC 3623:

"The router may need to preserve the cryptographic sequence numbers being
used on each interface in non-volatile storage.         An alternative is to
use the router's clock for cryptographic sequence number generation and
ensure that the clock is         preserved across restarts (either on the
same or redundant route processors).  If neither of these can be guaranteed,
it         can take up to RouterDeadInterval seconds after the restart
before adjacencies can be reestablished and this would force         the
grace period to be lengthened greatly."

Cheers, Manav
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        From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Srinivasan K L
        Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8.03 PM
        To: 'Alan Davey'; [email protected]
        Subject: Re: [OSPF] Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3
        
        

        Hi,

         

        This question has set me thinking on the draft "Security Extension
for OSPFv2 when using Manual Key Management". When a router reboots,
assuming that it cannot remember the last sequence number it used, how will
it start re-establishing peers. Are the existing peers supposed to accept
(temporarily maybe, without losing the previous sequence number information
- anyway the challenge mechanism can protect against replay attacks) packets
with a new (lower) sequence number that pass authentication. Or will it take
RouterDeadInterval for the rebooted router to get accepted? In case it takes
RouterDeadInterval, unplanned GR cannot be supported, since the first
packets sent out will be grace LSAs, probably with lower (zero) sequence
numbers. I think this should be explicitly covered in the draft.

         

         

        Regards,

        Srini.

        
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                From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
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        Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:20 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: [OSPF] Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3

         

        Folks

         

        I have read draft-ietf-ospf-auth-trailer-ospfv3-02 and have a few
minor nits as follows.

         

        -           After an unplanned graceful restart, a router may send
Grace-LSAs in an LS Update packet before any Hello packets.  Unless I am
missing something, the draft should include such LS Update packets in the
list of those that MUST have the AT-bit set.

        -          In Figure 1, for the packet on the left hand side, the IP
Header Length HL = PL + LL (not PL + AL).

        -          In section 4.1 Authentication Trailer, in the Auth type
bullet, the following wording be clearer; "At present, the only value
defined is 1, to denote ..."?

         

        Regards

        Alan Davey

         

        Software Engineer, Network Technologies Division
        Metaswitch Networks

        [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
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