Hi Faraz,

On Sep 24, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Faraz Shamim (sshamim) wrote:

> Hi Acee,
> 
> In my point 2) below, I am not saying to enable OSPFv3 towards ISP for the
> purpose of forming OSPFv3 neighbor relationship with ISP. I am saying that
> in eBGP case, you do need to enable OSPFv3 on the link towards the service
> provider(in passive mode) because this ISP link is needed to be known as
> an IGP because BGP will cary this next-hop "as is" in its iBGP updates
> unless we do next-hop-self. This is one aspect of interaction between BGP
> and IGP where you need to carry the eBGP next-hop in your IGP.

I understood. What I meant was that this would not be an autoconfigured 
instance of OSPFv3 and it would most likely not be the same instance as is 
running on non-ISP facing interfaces. 

Thanks,
Acee 


> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Faraz
> 
> On 9/24/12 10:47 AM, "Acee Lindem" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Faraz, 
>> Thanks for review.
>> 
>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Faraz Shamim (sshamim) wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Acee,
>>> 
>>> Not opposing this idea but have 4 comments here:
>>> 
>>> 1)
>>> 
>>> In section 5.2.1:
>>> 
>>> The OSPFv3 Auto-Configuration (AC) LSA has a function code of TBD and
>>>  the S1/S2 bits set to B'01' indicating Area Flooding Scope.
>>> 
>>> I think it should say S2/S1 as mentioned in RFC 5340. Since S2 comes
>>> before S1 in packet format so it make sense to use the same sequence in
>>> your text.
>> 
>> Yes - will update.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Also, not sure what you meant by letter 'B' next to '01'.
>> 
>> I mean these are bits. I will see whether or not this is used elsewhere.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 2)
>>> 
>>> In section 2.2:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For example, if manual
>>>      configuration or an other condition indicates that an interface
>>>      is connected to an Internet Service Provider (ISP), there is
>>>      typically no need to employ OSPFv3.  However, note that in many
>>>      environments it can be useful to test whether an OSPFv3 adjacency
>>>      can be established.  In home networking environments, an
>>>      interface where no OSPFv3 neighbors are found but a DHCP prefix
>>>      can be acquired may be considered as an ISP interface.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In a situation when you are running eBGP with an ISP and iBGP
>>> internally,
>>> it is required to enable OSPFv3 on the ISP link unless you are using
>>> next-hop-self in BGP. So in that case excluding ISP link is a bad idea.
>>> Also in this case enabling OSPFv3 with passive-interface would make
>>> sense.
>> 
>> You certainly wouldn't run OSPFv3 in the same routing domain with the ISP
>> box. 
>> This is really only an example but I could qualify OSPFv3 as
>> "autoconfigured OSPFv3".
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 3)
>>> 
>>> In section 2.4:
>>> 
>>> OSPFv3 interfaces MUST auto-configure the default HelloInterval
>>>      and RouterDeadInterval as specified in [OSPFV3].
>>> 
>>> I think the "auto-configure" part is confusing here. We do not
>>> "configure"
>>> the default values when we enable OSPFv3 on an interface. A better
>>> sentence in my opinion would be:
>>> 
>>> OSPFv3 interfaces MUST use the default HelloInterval
>>>      and RouterDeadInterval as specified in [OSPFV3].
>> 
>> Ok. 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 4) In section 5.2.1, wouldn't it be better to use the field name/letter
>>> instead of the actual value?
>> 
>> These fields are referred to by the bit names in RFC 5340.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> For example instead of mentioning 1 0 1 it
>>> should say U S2 S1 and in the explanation section it should mention the
>>> default value for AC LSA. Same logic goes for using TBD instead of "LSA
>>> Function Code"
>> 
>> This is pretty much standard text for adding an OSPFv3 LSA. The text
>> excerpted below
>> includes the name of the bits, value, and the designation.
>> 
>>  The OSPFv3 Auto-Configuration (AC) LSA has a function code of TBD and
>>  the S1/S2 bits set to B'01' indicating Area Flooding Scope.  The U
>>  bit will be set indicating that the OSPFv3 AC LSA should be flooded
>>  even if it is not understood.
>> 
>> Note that we want to specify these bits precisely rather than the
>> defaults. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Acee 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Faraz
>>> 
>>> On 9/17/12 1:58 PM, "Acee Lindem" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We had some support of making
>>>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-acee-ospf-ospfv3-autoconfig-03.txt an
>>>> OSPFv3
>>>> WG document at IETF 84. The impetus is:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. OSPFv3 being considered as homenet routing protocol and
>>>> autoconfiguration is a requirement.
>>>> 2. Work on OSPFv3 configuration has started in the past in other WGs
>>>> but not finished.
>>>> 3. Current proposal has gone through a couple revision cycles with
>>>> incremental comments addressed.
>>>> 
>>>> Is anyone opposed?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
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>>> 
>> 
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