Acee,

I am not sure why you think that the same instance can not be used for the
ISP link. The fact that you will enable OSPFv3 in a passive mode, instance
ID really won't matter here.

Faraz

On 9/24/12 11:42 AM, "Acee Lindem" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi Faraz,
>
>On Sep 24, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Faraz Shamim (sshamim) wrote:
>
>> Hi Acee,
>> 
>> In my point 2) below, I am not saying to enable OSPFv3 towards ISP for
>>the
>> purpose of forming OSPFv3 neighbor relationship with ISP. I am saying
>>that
>> in eBGP case, you do need to enable OSPFv3 on the link towards the
>>service
>> provider(in passive mode) because this ISP link is needed to be known as
>> an IGP because BGP will cary this next-hop "as is" in its iBGP updates
>> unless we do next-hop-self. This is one aspect of interaction between
>>BGP
>> and IGP where you need to carry the eBGP next-hop in your IGP.
>
>I understood. What I meant was that this would not be an autoconfigured
>instance of OSPFv3 and it would most likely not be the same instance as
>is running on non-ISP facing interfaces.
>
>Thanks,
>Acee 
>
>
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Faraz
>> 
>> On 9/24/12 10:47 AM, "Acee Lindem" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Faraz, 
>>> Thanks for review.
>>> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Faraz Shamim (sshamim) wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Acee,
>>>> 
>>>> Not opposing this idea but have 4 comments here:
>>>> 
>>>> 1)
>>>> 
>>>> In section 5.2.1:
>>>> 
>>>> The OSPFv3 Auto-Configuration (AC) LSA has a function code of TBD and
>>>>  the S1/S2 bits set to B'01' indicating Area Flooding Scope.
>>>> 
>>>> I think it should say S2/S1 as mentioned in RFC 5340. Since S2 comes
>>>> before S1 in packet format so it make sense to use the same sequence
>>>>in
>>>> your text.
>>> 
>>> Yes - will update.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Also, not sure what you meant by letter 'B' next to '01'.
>>> 
>>> I mean these are bits. I will see whether or not this is used
>>>elsewhere.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2)
>>>> 
>>>> In section 2.2:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> For example, if manual
>>>>      configuration or an other condition indicates that an interface
>>>>      is connected to an Internet Service Provider (ISP), there is
>>>>      typically no need to employ OSPFv3.  However, note that in many
>>>>      environments it can be useful to test whether an OSPFv3 adjacency
>>>>      can be established.  In home networking environments, an
>>>>      interface where no OSPFv3 neighbors are found but a DHCP prefix
>>>>      can be acquired may be considered as an ISP interface.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In a situation when you are running eBGP with an ISP and iBGP
>>>> internally,
>>>> it is required to enable OSPFv3 on the ISP link unless you are using
>>>> next-hop-self in BGP. So in that case excluding ISP link is a bad
>>>>idea.
>>>> Also in this case enabling OSPFv3 with passive-interface would make
>>>> sense.
>>> 
>>> You certainly wouldn't run OSPFv3 in the same routing domain with the
>>>ISP
>>> box. 
>>> This is really only an example but I could qualify OSPFv3 as
>>> "autoconfigured OSPFv3".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 3)
>>>> 
>>>> In section 2.4:
>>>> 
>>>> OSPFv3 interfaces MUST auto-configure the default HelloInterval
>>>>      and RouterDeadInterval as specified in [OSPFV3].
>>>> 
>>>> I think the "auto-configure" part is confusing here. We do not
>>>> "configure"
>>>> the default values when we enable OSPFv3 on an interface. A better
>>>> sentence in my opinion would be:
>>>> 
>>>> OSPFv3 interfaces MUST use the default HelloInterval
>>>>      and RouterDeadInterval as specified in [OSPFV3].
>>> 
>>> Ok. 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 4) In section 5.2.1, wouldn't it be better to use the field
>>>>name/letter
>>>> instead of the actual value?
>>> 
>>> These fields are referred to by the bit names in RFC 5340.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> For example instead of mentioning 1 0 1 it
>>>> should say U S2 S1 and in the explanation section it should mention
>>>>the
>>>> default value for AC LSA. Same logic goes for using TBD instead of
>>>>"LSA
>>>> Function Code"
>>> 
>>> This is pretty much standard text for adding an OSPFv3 LSA. The text
>>> excerpted below
>>> includes the name of the bits, value, and the designation.
>>> 
>>>  The OSPFv3 Auto-Configuration (AC) LSA has a function code of TBD and
>>>  the S1/S2 bits set to B'01' indicating Area Flooding Scope.  The U
>>>  bit will be set indicating that the OSPFv3 AC LSA should be flooded
>>>  even if it is not understood.
>>> 
>>> Note that we want to specify these bits precisely rather than the
>>> defaults. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Acee 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Faraz
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/17/12 1:58 PM, "Acee Lindem" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> We had some support of making
>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-acee-ospf-ospfv3-autoconfig-03.txt an
>>>>> OSPFv3
>>>>> WG document at IETF 84. The impetus is:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. OSPFv3 being considered as homenet routing protocol and
>>>>> autoconfiguration is a requirement.
>>>>> 2. Work on OSPFv3 configuration has started in the past in other WGs
>>>>> but not finished.
>>>>> 3. Current proposal has gone through a couple revision cycles with
>>>>> incremental comments addressed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is anyone opposed?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Acee _______________________________________________
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>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>

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