The lack of speed limits on the rural secondary roads will almost
certainly be having an effect here.

If you are in the area, it would be a good idea to survey and tag the
speed limits. I have found that correct speed limit tagging will often
fix these problems.

I find a dashcam/video camera mounted in the car helps, as it is
difficult to remember exactly where the change of limits occurs.

Phil (trigpoint)


On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 14:34 +0100, Rudolf Mayer wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> [Dennis Luxen], On 2014-03-24 14:01:
> >> http://osrm.at/?hl=en&loc=48.208845,16.372329&loc=48.276104,16.791565
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> This seems very wrong, though, Google maps estimates 
> >> (http://goo.gl/maps/EPt14)
> >> a.) a likely more optimal route, preferring bigger streets
> >> b.) estimates 45,1 km, 47 Minutes. Almsot 30 mins difference in a 47 
> >> minutes route seems way off…
> >
> > We do not have any real traffic info, especially no information on how long 
> > routes actually takes. Thus we have to make educated guesses. 
> > Unfortunately, these guesses may sometimes be off. If we just had an army 
> > of cell phones telling us their positions every other minute. ;-)
> 
> 
> I understand that perfectly ;-)
> 
> but the given difference just seemed way too much, as the OSRM route 
> takes >50% longer.
> 
> >> I am not sure what this is caused by, the map data seems ok for this route.
> >
> > Did you spot any portions of the route that take obviously too long?
> 
> 
> A better link than before, to be more comparable to google:
> http://osrm.at/?hl=en&loc=48.209198,16.372941&loc=48.276104,16.791565
> 
> Now when I put that on my version of the interface at
> http://kronos.ifs.tuwien.ac.at/osrm/main.html?hl=en&loc=48.209198,16.372941&loc=48.276104,16.791565
>  
> to get the segment details, the following estimates seem to take likely 
> too long:
> 
> * Turn slight right onto L2
> 5.54 km (9 min | 35.5 km/h)
> 
> * Turn right onto L2
> 7.81 km (13 min | 35 km/h
> 
> These are secondary roads, partly in villages with 50km/h speed limit 
> (but not much traffic 90% of the time, as there are no traffic lights or 
> major intersections), but for the rest the limit would be 100km/h, and 
> occasionally 70km/h before crossings. thus the average of 35km/h seems 
> very much off, and I would rather expect double that speed.
> 
> >> Besides this huge time difference, one particullarily interesting detail 
> >> in the routing is at http://osrm.at/6PV, where OSRM prefers a short cut 
> >> through a much smaller street (tertiary vs primary) that has much more 
> >> crossings, and http://osrm.at/6PW would be the much preferred rout..
> >>
> >> Any ideas why this is happening?
> >
> > Both routes have a very similar estimated driving time with the „bad“ one 
> > just a bit faster. Turn penalties, ie. caring for turns and passed 
> > intersections is on the roadmap.
> 
> 
> Do you consider the lane information as well? I see that on the priority 
> road this wasn't provided correctly everywhere, I fixed that now, maybe 
> it will change after the next update.
> 
> thanks,
> rudi
> 
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