Yea I know what u mean.
But a couple of days ago i modified a file(I think it was the /etc/group
file)...syscheck fired a lvl 7 alert like 2 min later...it detected a
modified file...havent tried a reduced logfile yet.
also can u tell me what log file did u use?


On Mon, 2011-03-07 at 13:31 -0600, Nate Woodward wrote:
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gutsy gibbon [mailto:[email protected]] 
> > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 12:52 PM
> > To: ossec-list
> > Subject: [ossec-list] Re: Deletion of log data
> > 
> > what log file did u open with vim...make sure that the log 
> > file u open is included in the ossec.conf file and just to 
> 
> I made sure I was modifying a logfile that is being monitored.
> 
> > make sure the rule works reduce the 6 hr syscheck thing...get 
> > it to run right after u edit the file..
> 
> I'll give this a try, but assuming the rule does work (it's one of the 
> rules that ships with OSSEC, after all), how do I make sure log 
> tampering will be detected no matter what? The OSSEC book says the time 
> between syschecks has a minimum frequency of an hour, and I can't 
> exactly ask crackers to only tamper with my logs X minutes after the top 
> of the hour.
> 
> > 
> > On Mar 6, 10:54 am, "Tanishk Lakhaani" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I think it checks for the same only at the time of running 
> > syscheck, bcoz at that time it tries to compare it with the 
> > database it has already made during pre-scan mode.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Tanishk Lakhaani
> > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "Nate Woodward" <[email protected]>
> > >
> > > Sender: [email protected]
> > > Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:08:51
> > > To: ossec-list<[email protected]>
> > > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [ossec-list] Deletion of log data
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to get OSSEC to detect data deletion in log 
> > files. The page 
> > > 
> > athttp://www.ossec.net/doc/manual/monitoring/index.htmlindicates that 
> > > log monitoring is done in real time, and ossec_rules.xml has these
> > > rules:
> > >
> > >   <!-- File rotation/reducded rules -->
> > >   <rule id="591" level="3">
> > >     <if_sid>500</if_sid>
> > >     <match>^ossec: File rotated </match>
> > >     <description>Log file rotated.</description>
> > >   </rule>
> > >
> > >   <rule id="592" level="8">
> > >     <if_sid>500</if_sid>
> > >     <match>^ossec: File size reduced</match>
> > >     <description>Log file size reduced.</description>
> > >     <group>attacks,</group>
> > >   </rule>
> > >
> > >   <rule id="593" level="9">
> > >     <if_sid>500</if_sid>
> > >     <match>^ossec: Event log cleared</match>
> > >     <description>Microsoft Event log cleared.</description>
> > >     <group>logs_cleared,</group>
> > >   </rule>
> > >
> > > When I open up a log file in vim, delete a few lines and 
> > save it, rule
> > > 592 doesn't trigger. Am I doing something wrong? Does real-time log 
> > > monitoring include the rules above, or do those rules only trigger 
> > > when syscheck is run (at which time the log would have grown bigger 
> > > than what it was before, despite my deletions)?
> > >
> > > How can I ensure log file integrity?
> > >
> > > -Nate
> > 
> > 


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