Hi Gurtaj, 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gurtaj Singh [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 1:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [ossec-list] Re: Deletion of log data
> 
> Yea I know what u mean.
> But a couple of days ago i modified a file(I think it was the 
> /etc/group file)...syscheck fired a lvl 7 alert like 2 min 
> later...it detected a modified file...havent tried a reduced 
> logfile yet.
> also can u tell me what log file did u use?

I tried both maillog and messages.

> 
> 
> On Mon, 2011-03-07 at 13:31 -0600, Nate Woodward wrote:
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: gutsy gibbon [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 12:52 PM
> > > To: ossec-list
> > > Subject: [ossec-list] Re: Deletion of log data
> > > 
> > > what log file did u open with vim...make sure that the log file u 
> > > open is included in the ossec.conf file and just to
> > 
> > I made sure I was modifying a logfile that is being monitored.
> > 
> > > make sure the rule works reduce the 6 hr syscheck 
> thing...get it to 
> > > run right after u edit the file..
> > 
> > I'll give this a try, but assuming the rule does work (it's 
> one of the 
> > rules that ships with OSSEC, after all), how do I make sure log 
> > tampering will be detected no matter what? The OSSEC book says the 
> > time between syschecks has a minimum frequency of an hour, 
> and I can't 
> > exactly ask crackers to only tamper with my logs X minutes 
> after the 
> > top of the hour.
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Mar 6, 10:54 am, "Tanishk Lakhaani" 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > I think it checks for the same only at the time of running
> > > syscheck, bcoz at that time it tries to compare it with 
> the database 
> > > it has already made during pre-scan mode.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Tanishk Lakhaani
> > > > Sent from BlackBerry on Airtel
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: "Nate Woodward" <[email protected]>
> > > >
> > > > Sender: [email protected]
> > > > Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 10:08:51
> > > > To: ossec-list<[email protected]>
> > > > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: [ossec-list] Deletion of log data
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to get OSSEC to detect data deletion in log
> > > files. The page
> > > > 
> > > athttp://www.ossec.net/doc/manual/monitoring/index.htmlindicates 
> > > that
> > > > log monitoring is done in real time, and 
> ossec_rules.xml has these
> > > > rules:
> > > >
> > > >   <!-- File rotation/reducded rules -->
> > > >   <rule id="591" level="3">
> > > >     <if_sid>500</if_sid>
> > > >     <match>^ossec: File rotated </match>
> > > >     <description>Log file rotated.</description>
> > > >   </rule>
> > > >
> > > >   <rule id="592" level="8">
> > > >     <if_sid>500</if_sid>
> > > >     <match>^ossec: File size reduced</match>
> > > >     <description>Log file size reduced.</description>
> > > >     <group>attacks,</group>
> > > >   </rule>
> > > >
> > > >   <rule id="593" level="9">
> > > >     <if_sid>500</if_sid>
> > > >     <match>^ossec: Event log cleared</match>
> > > >     <description>Microsoft Event log cleared.</description>
> > > >     <group>logs_cleared,</group>
> > > >   </rule>
> > > >
> > > > When I open up a log file in vim, delete a few lines and
> > > save it, rule
> > > > 592 doesn't trigger. Am I doing something wrong? Does real-time 
> > > > log monitoring include the rules above, or do those rules only 
> > > > trigger when syscheck is run (at which time the log would have 
> > > > grown bigger than what it was before, despite my deletions)?
> > > >
> > > > How can I ensure log file integrity?
> > > >
> > > > -Nate
> > > 
> > > 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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