On May 27, 2008, at 3:26 AM, David Cake wrote:

> At 8:13 AM -0700 26/5/08, Chris Gehlker wrote:
>> The narrative of fear turns out to be more bullshit.
>> <http://www.newsweek.com/id/138508>
>>
>
>       Really interesting result (and not entirely unexpected)
>       Its not to say that the Iraq war hasn't, I think, made things
> worse as far as terrorism goes (the terrorist attacks in Jordan in
> 2006, for example, absolutely wouldn't have happened without the Iraq
> war), but I think its very valuable to defuse the idea of global
> Islamic terrorism still rising (and idea that, for example, it seems
> Chuck still adheres to).
>       Cheers
>               David
> _______________________________________________

Indonesia and the Philippines are the result of the Iraq war?  The  
Christians being killed in Africa by Muslims are the result of the  
Iraq war?

"More Buddhists killed in Thailand's Muslim south"   Would never have  
happened if not for the Iraq war?

Nonsense.

A simple google search of news events of Christians or Buddhists being  
killed by Muslims  (not in Iraq) will yield more results than you can  
read today.

My point wasn't about rising amount of terrorism, it was, to state it  
simply.

While not all muslims are terrorists, (by any stretch of the  
imagination.. p.c.  disclaimer etc...) the vast majority of terrorists  
acts in the world today are committed by muslims.
In the 21st century, it's not even close.

This quote really pisses me off..

"They count civilian casualties from the war in Iraq as deaths caused  
by terrorism. This makes no sense. Iraq is a war zone, and as in other  
war zones around the world, many of those killed are civilians"

Let me call bullshit in the strongest possible terms.  We are not  
carpet bombing cities like wwii.

So when  this headline hits.  " A suicide bomber killed 125 people and  
wounded 130 by detonating a car"   He thinks what?   "Act of war,  
let's not count it?"

The vast majority of civilians killed are not the result of collateral  
damage, as he implies, but are targeted directly by terrorists..   
Collateral damage does happen but it doesn't involve VBIEDs in the  
middle of a market place filled with civilians.

When you strap an explosive belt on a retarded women, send her into a  
crowd and remotely blow her up, killing  hundreds of civilians, it is  
not collateral damage, it's evil but he would discount that as an act  
of war.

When you strap explosives to a three year old baby, it damn well had  
better be counted as a terrorist act or this idiot has no concept of  
evil. (or is simply an apologist trying to discount the obvious to  
make his point)


Page through the database at www.iraqbodycount.org  (Not a fan of the  
US or the war..)  How many of the civilian deaths are the result of  
collateral damage?

=c=
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