On Sep 9, 2008, at 7:43 AM, Charles Bennett wrote: > I don't give a rats ass about who people love. I believe in civil > unions. I have way too many friends that are personally affected by > these bullshit laws. To whatever degree the right gets in this > issue, they are simply wrong. > > I can't really argue the word "marriage" since that is the domain of > the church but it is red meat to the bible thumping crowd and I'm sure > she/ the right scrounge a few votes that way. > > I can't find any record of Palin wanting to criminalize gay sex though > she has opposed marriage as a legal status. > > gaycitynews isn't a rightwing antigay site (no shit..) and they are > pretty critical of her stance. She DID support the amendment opposing > 'gay marriage' but vetoed the rightwing attempt to deny domestic > partner benifits since she felt the > > <http://gaycitynews.com/site/index.cfm?newsid=20098390&BRD=2729&PAG=461&dept_id=568864&rfi=8 >> >
From that very article: "The Department of Law advised me that this bill... is unconstitutional given the recent court order... mandating same-sex benefits," Palin said in a statement. "With that in mind, signing this bill would be in direct violation of my oath of office." The statement added, "The governor's veto does not signal any change or modification to her disagreement with the action and order by the Alaska Supreme Court. It is the governor's intention to work with the Legislature and to give the people of Alaska an opportunity to express their wishes and intentions whether these benefits should continue." Eight days before signing the veto, Palin signed another bill that called for a "statewide advisory vote" regarding the ruling from Alaska's high court, saying in a statement, "We may disagree with the rationale behind the ruling, but our responsibility is to proceed forward with the law and follow the Constitution... I disagree with the recent court decision because I feel as though Alaskans spoke on this issue with its overwhelming support for a Constitutional Amendment in 1998 which defined marriage as between a man and woman. But the Supreme Court has spoken and the state will abide." The ACLU's Mittman framed the way the bill calling for the statewide advisory played out in the ongoing controversy about the high court's order. "Then what happened was the anti-gay forces came up with what they called an advisory vote," he said. "It was essentially a way for anti- LGBT people to try and rally public opinion to try and move their agenda forward." In 2007, the state spent an estimated $1 million to hold that vote and Alaskans expressed their opposition to the court ruling by a narrow margin. The vote did not have the effect of making law. The McCain campaign has very effectively spun the veto to show Palin, 44, as sympathetic toward the gay and lesbian community." > take a moment to read this. > > <http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html> I think that site is simply wrong on the successionist issue. To me, if you attend the convention of an organization and make speeches to your fellow members you qualify as a 'member' no matter how you register. There s video of the party chair saying that she only registered Republican as a strategy to pursue the AI party's goals. Of course if she really doesn't support the AI party and was only pretending at their convention, that's worse. > She went after the state GOP chair, Randy Ruedrich, for doing work for > the party on public time and working closely with a company he was > supposed to be regulating. She also filed a formal complaint against > Attorney General Gregg Renkes for having investments in an energy > company that stood to benefit from a state trade deal. Both Ruedrich > and Renkes ultimately resigned their posts, and Ruedrich paid a > $12,000 fine. That fits. > > She did ask for earmarks for her state to the tune of several hundred > million dollars. I guess since Obama never claimed to be a reformer > we can ignore the billions (yep Billions) of earmarks he requested and > received as a senator. There was an insurrection inside the Republican party in Alaska and one side went after the other side. That's not reform, my friend. I doubt you have ever been in Catron County or the AZ strip but they are hard core republican strongholds and centers of the sagebrush rebellion. Yet almost everyone in those areas makes their living by sponging off the federal taxpayer and some make quite a good living. I am much more comfortable with the old Mendel Rivers style or pork barrel politics. It's so much less hypocritical. Of course it is only today that we have learned about Palin's per diem scams and her firing an aide over personal issues and saying it was about performance. -- Vegetarians eat Vegetables, Humanitarians frighten me _______________________________________________ OSX-Nutters mailing list | [email protected] http://lists.tit-wank.com/mailman/listinfo/osx-nutters List hosted at http://cat5.org/
