On 2009-Jan-01, at 03:06, Kevin Callahan wrote:

> are we assuming the Dignity was inside Israel's established 100 mile
> border?
>
>  CNN is reporting the Dignity was definitely in international waters,
> yet they also report they were about 90 miles from the coast -
>
> and as I said, if the Dignity penetrated Israeli's lawful border, then
> they have to suffer the potential consequences -
> I've never said otherwise -


Actually they were in international waters, but Israel has declared  
Gaza a combat zone, which means they can send military ships out  
further and intercept who the fuck they like; everyone has been warned.

Reports from people on that boat say that they were followed by the  
Israelis for 30 minutes before being rammed.

They chose to defy all the warnings, which says to me that they were  
relying on the Israeli military forces being lenient and humane. Which  
as we see from the result, they were. Nobody died. Then they want to  
use the stunt to make the Israelis look like bad guys.

There are plenty of bad guys to go round. But this stunt achieves  
nothing except exemplify how fundie factions play the human rights  
card to suck in soft Western sympathy. Meanwhile they vow to send  
their children to be martyrs and vow to never give up fighting. There  
comes a point where you see they are choosing this path. And they are  
entitled to choose it. But they'll get no sympathy from me. [1]

Stefano


[1] Well actually, they did with a few candles and trying to imagine  
what it would be like to be locked in a struggle my whole life,  
surrounded by fundie culture.




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