On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:41:47 -0700, Chris Gehlker <[email protected]> wrote: > If you think it's effective and still find abhorrent you are unique or > nearly so.
Then you're clearly trying hard not to hear my point. Let me simplify it: 1. A detainee either knows what you want to find out, or doesn't 2. Under torture, he may tell you the truth - effective - or he fabricates something to end the torture - ineffective I see, from reading below in the thread, that you're defining effective in broader terms than I was - whether it proves, overall, a positive contribution or a negative in our strategic objectives; I was considering it tactically... does it, in the individual instance, reach a specific objective. If the former, then I completely agree - in the big picture, it's completely counterproductive, immoral and abhorent. I thought we were discussing the latter - whether it ever leads to specific, objective facts (which, logic would dictate, it may). I think we're just arguing in circles. _______________________________________________ OSX-Nutters mailing list | [email protected] http://lists.tit-wank.com/mailman/listinfo/osx-nutters List hosted at http://cat5.org/
