Thanks, Jordi,

Now I am running the CloudDetectionExample, and my goal is to adapt this 
method to detect the cloud automatically, which is mean that i should 
combine the classification method and spectral angle together.

My first problem here is that:  what exactly the* referencePixel *mean?
I have found one reply from a discussion several months ago which 
said:*"**pixel 
components parameters are a pixel value in the input image taken on a cloud 
which is used as a reference for spectral angle computation"*.So whether 
the "*a pixel value" *is the* DN(Digital Number) Value *of the specified 
pixel? Just because there are 4 bands, so the values have 4 components, Is 
that right?  

If the image only have 3 bands (Like RGB colorful images, and such kind of 
images are more normal and available that tiff with four bands), So I only 
need to provide 3 components of a cloud pixel, Is that right?  

Best wishes! 


On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 12:53:42 PM UTC, Jordi Inglada wrote:
>
> [email protected] <javascript:> wrote: 
> > 
> > Thanks very much for your reply,Jordi. 
> > 
> > I have read the first paper, it need cloud and cloud shadow match, and 
> > the processing was more complicated than OTB. 
> > 
> > As refer to OTB cloud detection method,I have another question:the OTB 
> > cloud-detect method need specify a pixel which possibly is cloud, that 
> > means it can not recognize cloud automatically.If someone adopt the 
> > OTB cloud detection method to process large amount of images or run 
> > real-time on-board the remote sensing satellite, Obviously, one can 
> > not pick a cloud pixel for the OTB program.So my question is: 
> > 
> > Does there any techniques to determine the reference cloud spectral 
> > angle automatically? Or could I just preset the reference cloud 
> > spectral angle? 
> > 
> > I know that some methods such as SVM could train the cloud spectral 
> > angle classifier which could act as a reference,Any other 
> > suggestion?? 
> > 
>
> Hi, 
>
> I simple approach for which I have seen good results is indeed supervised 
> classification. If you can generate a set of training samples (small 
> polygons) for the cloud and for the non-cloud classes, you can use either 
> SVM or Random Forests to implement your cloud screening procedure. 
>
> In this case, you don't even have to code in C++ and you can use the OTB 
> applications. Have a look here: 
> https://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/CookBook/CookBookse14.html#x66-1010004.4 
>
> Good luck. 
>
> Jordi 
>
> > Thanks again! 
> > 
> > On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 12:37:58 PM UTC, Jordi Inglada wrote: 
> > 
> >     [email protected] wrote: 
> >     > 
> >     > Hello guys, 
> >     > 
> >     > Now I am a beginner to use the OTB and I have some problems when 
> >     using 
> >     > the Cloud Detection Example. 
> >     > 
> >     > As far as I know that there are several techniques to detect 
> >     cloud 
> >     > from the remote sensing imagery. In the OTB, it detects the 
> >     cloud 
> >     > based on spectral angle principle and assume that the image have 
> >     four 
> >     > spectral bands. In my mind the parameter setting should affect 
> >     the 
> >     > detection result, and the parameters must set according to 
> >     Sensor that 
> >     > the camera adopted.But not every cameras have four spectral 
> >     bands. 
> >     > 
> >     > So My questions are: 
> >     > 
> >     > Does there any papers about the OTB Cloud Detection method? 
> >     > 
> >     > Does it work well using only three spectral band? 
> >     > 
> >     > What is the basic principle to set the parameters? 
> >     > 
> >     > Anyone any suggestion is welcome! 
> >     > 
> >     > Thanks very much. 
> >     > 
> >     > -- 
> > 
> >     Hi, 
> > 
> >     You are right about the fact that there are many methods for the 
> >     detection of clouds. The spectral method proposed in OTB is a very 
> >     simple one (spectral angle and low-pass filtering before 
> >     thresholding), but has the advantage of not needing any particular 
> >     spectral band (SWIR or thermal, for instance). 
> > 
> >     If you want more sophisticated approaches, you should try to 
> >     implement something inspired from Fmask[1] for single-date 
> >     acquisitions or from MACCS[2] for multi-temporal series. 
> > 
> >     Jordi 
> > 
> >     [1] Zhu, Zhe, and Curtis E. Woodcock. "Object-based cloud and 
> >     cloud shadow detection in Landsat imagery." Remote Sensing of 
> >     Environment 118 (2012): 83-94. 
> > 
> >     [2] Hagolle, Olivier, et al. "A multi-temporal method for cloud 
> >     detection, applied to FORMOSAT-2, VENµS, LANDSAT and SENTINEL-2 
> >     images." Remote Sensing of Environment 114.8 (2010): 1747-1755. 
>

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