Hello, 

Does anyone could confirms it ?

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 3:35:05 PM UTC, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Thanks, Jordi,
>
> Now I am running the CloudDetectionExample, and my goal is to adapt this 
> method to detect the cloud automatically, which is mean that i should 
> combine the classification method and spectral angle together.
>
> My first problem here is that:  what exactly the* referencePixel *mean?
> I have found one reply from a discussion several months ago which 
> said:*"**pixel 
> components parameters are a pixel value in the input image taken on a cloud 
> which is used as a reference for spectral angle computation"*.So whether 
> the "*a pixel value" *is the* DN(Digital Number) Value *of the specified 
> pixel? Just because there are 4 bands, so the values have 4 components, 
> Is that right?  
>
> If the image only have 3 bands (Like RGB colorful images, and such kind of 
> images are more normal and available that tiff with four bands), So I only 
> need to provide 3 components of a cloud pixel, Is that right?  
>
> Best wishes! 
>
>
> On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 12:53:42 PM UTC, Jordi Inglada wrote:
>>
>> [email protected] wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Thanks very much for your reply,Jordi. 
>> > 
>> > I have read the first paper, it need cloud and cloud shadow match, and 
>> > the processing was more complicated than OTB. 
>> > 
>> > As refer to OTB cloud detection method,I have another question:the OTB 
>> > cloud-detect method need specify a pixel which possibly is cloud, that 
>> > means it can not recognize cloud automatically.If someone adopt the 
>> > OTB cloud detection method to process large amount of images or run 
>> > real-time on-board the remote sensing satellite, Obviously, one can 
>> > not pick a cloud pixel for the OTB program.So my question is: 
>> > 
>> > Does there any techniques to determine the reference cloud spectral 
>> > angle automatically? Or could I just preset the reference cloud 
>> > spectral angle? 
>> > 
>> > I know that some methods such as SVM could train the cloud spectral 
>> > angle classifier which could act as a reference,Any other 
>> > suggestion?? 
>> > 
>>
>> Hi, 
>>
>> I simple approach for which I have seen good results is indeed supervised 
>> classification. If you can generate a set of training samples (small 
>> polygons) for the cloud and for the non-cloud classes, you can use either 
>> SVM or Random Forests to implement your cloud screening procedure. 
>>
>> In this case, you don't even have to code in C++ and you can use the OTB 
>> applications. Have a look here: 
>> https://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/CookBook/CookBookse14.html#x66-1010004.4 
>>
>> Good luck. 
>>
>> Jordi 
>>
>> > Thanks again! 
>> > 
>> > On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 12:37:58 PM UTC, Jordi Inglada wrote: 
>> > 
>> >     [email protected] wrote: 
>> >     > 
>> >     > Hello guys, 
>> >     > 
>> >     > Now I am a beginner to use the OTB and I have some problems when 
>> >     using 
>> >     > the Cloud Detection Example. 
>> >     > 
>> >     > As far as I know that there are several techniques to detect 
>> >     cloud 
>> >     > from the remote sensing imagery. In the OTB, it detects the 
>> >     cloud 
>> >     > based on spectral angle principle and assume that the image have 
>> >     four 
>> >     > spectral bands. In my mind the parameter setting should affect 
>> >     the 
>> >     > detection result, and the parameters must set according to 
>> >     Sensor that 
>> >     > the camera adopted.But not every cameras have four spectral 
>> >     bands. 
>> >     > 
>> >     > So My questions are: 
>> >     > 
>> >     > Does there any papers about the OTB Cloud Detection method? 
>> >     > 
>> >     > Does it work well using only three spectral band? 
>> >     > 
>> >     > What is the basic principle to set the parameters? 
>> >     > 
>> >     > Anyone any suggestion is welcome! 
>> >     > 
>> >     > Thanks very much. 
>> >     > 
>> >     > -- 
>> > 
>> >     Hi, 
>> > 
>> >     You are right about the fact that there are many methods for the 
>> >     detection of clouds. The spectral method proposed in OTB is a very 
>> >     simple one (spectral angle and low-pass filtering before 
>> >     thresholding), but has the advantage of not needing any particular 
>> >     spectral band (SWIR or thermal, for instance). 
>> > 
>> >     If you want more sophisticated approaches, you should try to 
>> >     implement something inspired from Fmask[1] for single-date 
>> >     acquisitions or from MACCS[2] for multi-temporal series. 
>> > 
>> >     Jordi 
>> > 
>> >     [1] Zhu, Zhe, and Curtis E. Woodcock. "Object-based cloud and 
>> >     cloud shadow detection in Landsat imagery." Remote Sensing of 
>> >     Environment 118 (2012): 83-94. 
>> > 
>> >     [2] Hagolle, Olivier, et al. "A multi-temporal method for cloud 
>> >     detection, applied to FORMOSAT-2, VENµS, LANDSAT and SENTINEL-2 
>> >     images." Remote Sensing of Environment 114.8 (2010): 1747-1755. 
>>
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