I don't believe that there is a totally fault-free health system in the world- guess never was! Although, the human anatomy, physiology and biochemistry for the current human species has not changed, the challenges have- population growth with it pollution, man induced anamolies- aftermath of atomic reactions, biological/ chemical warfares/ accidents/ purposeful experiments, AIDS, and the recent most SARS.......
 
However, each government and its people try to address and live in their health system the best they can. Factors for degrees of success obviously depend largely upon demographics and socio-cultural factors such as population, per capita income, education, etc. as well.
 
My own ideal health system (may not be for others):
  • Direct access to all health care providers and facilities- reduce waiting times or need to see gatekeepers first (healthcare dollars saved)!
  • National health coverage for primary care services (my take- family practice/ GP visits, routine check ups, pediatric visits/ well baby programs, OB/ GYN visits, rehab visits) to all residents based upon an income sliding scale- cap the rotine examinations/ visits to disallow over-utilization by practitioners
  • National health coverage for hospitalization for actual treatments and all surgeries (not cosmetic)- cap the charges based upon number of days in the hospital, also use factors such as DRGs/ number of patients treated in a year or clinical indexes in order to discourage increase hospital stays- would we see lesser unnecessary surgeries, would conservative treatments once again dominate the medical field?
  • Stop the 'monopolies' by these private insurance companies, that are there mainly for-profit only, instead I don't mind the government putting those premiums (based upon a sliding income level) toward total coverage. I haven't seen or heard a single-insurance company say, "Okay, I feel this patient needs more visits or time for recovery than what you are saying, so here you go I am going to give you one additional week than what you asked for".
  • A 'totally-free' health system may cause a budget deficit or bankrupt the government and that could well mean reduction in health spending to accomodate say spending in defence matters, education or transportation. So, it might not be a bad idea to have people paying in to it in some form or format
  • Malpractice-insurance: Should continue even just to safeguard practitioners in a sue-happy country such as the US. While, I also strongly advocate for the consumers to be safeguarded againsts unscrupulous ones. They should have the right to appeal and collect for negligency or purposeful harm caused to them. But I donot advocate mandatory malpractice insurances. If a practitioner for one reason or the other (e.g. monetary) chooses not to have it- fine; but then be ready to face the consequences
  • Regulated income levels in institutions, will take care of disparity amongst same level of providers/ discourage other incentives to 'supplement' income. If I am going to only receive $ 10,000 per month, why run some of these tests that I know are either redundant or not required? Again, let's not be naive. While, mostly we have ethical ones out there, we do have too many venipunctures, X-rays, MRIs going around. Who made the rule to first get X-rays and then get MRIs (already we have wasted the costs for X-rays, when the doctor was sure an MRI is going to be needed)! And, again how about a better qualified practitioner getting lesser paid because he is a 'bad negotiator' and business unsavvy than the new chick right out of school, with her good 'marketing' skills?
  • Regulation of staffing based upon needs- Hospital gets a grant of X amount of dollars to cover all routine expenses (maintenance, wages, food, supplies, etc.)- and is required to have this mandatory staffing requirement (no incentive to cut costs by one less nurse aide or dietician). What did you guys think (those in SNFs) about the brief period we had the 'salary-equivalency' period in the US (April, '99 to October'99 or Dec'99, I guess)? The facility needing 2 OTs, 2 PTs had 5 each, your bosses weren't really caring about productivity...Why? Ofcourse, more the staff hours more the money! Just before that you had all the push for units, b.i.d. treatments- why? You got paid based upon the billable time you spent with patients. And, more the cost shown , more the payment received. So, you put in travel costs from flying in from upper peninsula to downtown Detroit, and you still got paid- because, that was your cost. Evals were then charged seperatedly for at least 8 units (2 hours). And, then came the brief period of salary equivalency, boom in the therapy business continued, you could demand your price- a further rise in the admissions to therapy schools as well..... And, then came the twister (some still splintered with the aftermath) called PPS. No longer therapy evals were covered, we now had capped payments with  levels of treatment times- evals times suddenly dropped to 15 minutes (wow, sudden effeciency?). You now needed to, ofcourse, take care of your costs after all you are not getting paid for your costs + premum added to it, not for the bodies in your practice, so patient time was 'managed', b.i.ds were suddenly not needed? Staffing got massacred. Capped reimbursements.... Say what, you suddenly had a massive supply and poor demand. Therapy admissions took a nose dive, and now with the rates bettered, profit margins better for the higher categories versus the low nad medium in the first year- Ultra-high category being lucrative enough, we ofcouse need people to produce that- let's fill 'em up!  WHO IS REGULATING HERE? And, where is the consumers' choice or what is 'reasonable' and 'necessary' for them?
  • Medicare/ Medicaid/ OIG dollars (governmental health regulating bodies equivalent in other countries) better spent not to have people reading notes to deny them but, to empower practitioners to do the right thing and ensuring that the consumers' are getting what they are warranted for
  • Stop needing to waste time on mostly useless note writing practices for payments.
  • Socialistic viewpoint versus capitalistic? I call it consumer and provider friendly versus 'for-profit only' insurance industry, or 'more profits only' healthcare practices. Nothing wrong in being 'for-profit', that's need for a continued existence, but 'only' for profits- as we see many, causes 'losses' to the consumers directly or indirectly monetarily or otherwise
  • So Biraj & Jodi, I agree with both of you!
Just my thoughts...
Joe
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Malpractice Ins

Hi Jody:

Thanks for reading through my post and responding. However, I was making two basic points.  Firstly that universal healthcare at any level is NOT "hyper regulated socialism".  Secondly, that private for-profit healthcare as it is run in the U.S. is not only a complex maze of rules and paperwork, but that it is downright dangerous because one can be covertly denied a required treatment because it costs the healthcare corporation too much.  And I honestly doubt if there is any safe way to realistically offer quality healthcare in a for profit system.

In fact  I am willing to go a step further and say that the whole notion of competitive for-profit health care where one can shop around for services is inherently and seriously flawed.  Because the basic idea that one can cut costs (to compete with other health care sellers) and yet offer standardized quality care is unrealistic as it carries the expectation that for-profit corporations are going to be ethical and well meaning in taking decisions which give precedence to standards over profits.  Unfortunately, in my opinion, the idea of being able to shop around for healthcare as one does for cars can't work because if you did not buy a Volkswagen or a BMW or a Hummer and simply bought a Chevy Cavalier or Hyundai Santa Fe - it will still serve the purpose.  But if an individual needing a catscan or an MRI was "carefully" screened based on a 30 minute interview in the doctor's office (as against a short 10-minute interview which is often used by doctors) it will not be the same thing.  Or if a healthcare provider is required to see 10 (or 8 or 5) patients for each hour of time worked one cannot expect quality standards to be maintained, because there is no such thing as assembly line healthcare.

Please note that I did not take up your example of groceries, because that is a can of worms in and of itself.  However, I am not sure if I can suitably respond to anecdotal information based on your experience.  And I am sincerely glad that that has been your experience.  However, as for the 10 Million people in the U.S. without healthcare, it may very well be a higher figure.  Take a look at these links I was able to find with a casual websearch, seems like the figure may well be about 40 million without healthcare:
 

http://www.coloradosenate.com/results.php3?news_id=382

The PT Dept. website of Northeastern University:

http://www.ptd.neu.edu/pth1420/medicaid.htm

Ah well!!! Let us agree to disagree Jody.

Take care,

Biraj
 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Biraj - you have written a long and thoughtful post.  I cannot begin to reply on your level, but I will respond to a couple points.

In a message dated 06/28/03 9:24:57 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I found that I had to go through a maze of rules to walk into a doctor's office or avail of a health service.
<<<<<  I too have found that as a health care consumer.  But its not that I think our current system is good or that it is a good example of the free market at work.   Its not only that I don't want Medicare and Medicaid to morph into Canadian style health care, its that the whole US system is already broken.  The health care consumer has little incentive to adopt a healthy lifestyle to save on medical costs.  The health care consumer has no incentive to shop around, since the costs are almost always paid by a third party, whether government or a for profit insurance.    I am not advocating that the current US system is superior to Canada.  I am saying I want a new system in the US, one where consumers buy healthcare like we buy cars and groceries.  My vision is for a system with no third party payers for any expenses under say 10K per family per year.  Something like the medical savings account concept, not tied to employment.   This is a system which allows the consumer to set aside pretax dollars into an account to pay their own health care expenses. ( Sometimes called a health care IRA because any money left in the health care account later can be used for other needs.   It is combined with a high deductible insurance policy to pay for really catastrophic illness.  This would put the consumer back in the drivers seat.  Those hassles, and that maze you mentioned, we don't deal with a hassle or maze like that when we buy a loaf of bread or even a car, do we?>>>>
 
 

To give one recent statistic, I forget the source (but perhaps it was "60 Minutes") there are 30 Million people in the U.S. who do not have access to healthcare.

<<< I say hogwash.  There may be 10% of the population uninsured, but most of these are young and healthy and intentionally have decided to go bare rather than pay the high insurance premium.  Furthermore, I live in the ninth poorest county in the USA, one journalists like to compare to the third world, and I don't meet anyone who cannot get health care.  All US hospitals are required to treat emergencies.  Also, actual cash can still work in the health care system.  My husband and I have been raising 4 kids for the last 15 years with insurance that has a $3000 per person or $10,000 per family deductible.  Guess what ?  Our kids have had the usual assortment of broken bones, colds, flus, tubes in the ears, two (one night) hospital stays, and we have used our insurance once.   We have (gasp) paid for all those doctor, lab, drugstore, and hospital bills.  And now we are starting braces on 2 of our kids.  >>>>

Sorry if I am ranting.  This topic is close to my heart.  It rarely crosses over with the OT topics, and I know most OTs seem to be Democrats so I usually don't get off on these topics.  -- Jody
 
 
 

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