Ron: the "pouch " is for storing the 3 lacings when the LACLS is not being 
used. It prevents the leather from getting tangled, ripped, etc. It fits: the 
whip stitch holds one end of the pouch; the single cordovan holds the other 
end. There should be a velcro "dot" provided with the kit. Attach it to the 
bottom of the pouch/where it meets the leather lacing piece. 
Remember that you should always start the testing with the small ACL. Should 
your client complaint/have difficulties seeing the holes, then provide the 
large ACL. Following the standardized administration guidelines protect the 
integrity of the test and of the scores obtained. 
I hope this is more helpful than confusing. I will be happy to help with more 
info. E-mail me [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Thanks, Carmen Aguirre, OTR  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ron Carson<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: Joan Riches<mailto:[email protected]> 
  Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 6:22 PM
  Subject: Re[2]: [OTlist] What to do?


  Hello Joan:

  I  received  my  LACLS  (Large Allen Cog. Level Screen). It took about 1
  hour  to figure out the lacing! I guess that puts me on the lower end of
  the cognitive scale <grin>.

  In  all  seriousness,  the  directions  indicate that a leather 'pouch',
  which  is supplied, should be stitched onto the large leather rectangle.
  What is the purpose of this 'pouch' and how the heck does it fit??

  Thanks,

  Ron

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  On5/5/2005, Joan Riches, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> said:

   
  JR> Hi Ron
  JR> Of course I agree with Elizabeth's suggestion that you look at cognition
  JR> with the Allen Cognitive Levels. I guess this is the time to keep my 
promise
  JR> to talk about that model.
  JR> Your difficulty is that "she doesn't identify any occupational goals". 
With
  JR> declining cognition one of the first effects is loss of the ability to
  JR> predict the possible implications of one's actions. These are people who
  JR> seem just fine - still remembering things - good communication - often
  JR> pleasant and cooperative - still able to explain proverbs or perhaps a bit
  JR> concrete. With a difficulty they look for obvious causes ie balance in the
  JR> case of a fall and want to remediate it. They will know they don't want to
  JR> fall again however they are likely to be unable or find it very difficult 
to
  JR> speculate about the effect on their valued occupation(s) if they do fall
  JR> (Allen Cognitive Level 5).
  JR> Identifying an occupational goal is a very sophisticated cognitive 
activity
  JR> - think how OT students struggle to develop that point of view.
  JR>  I think you would find these sites interesting
  JR> http://www.allencogadvisor.com/<http://www.allencogadvisor.com/> and
  JR> 
http://www.ot-innovations.com/home.html<http://www.ot-innovations.com/home.html>.
  JR> The new Allen Cognitive Network site will be up soon and I'll post it to 
the
  JR> list as soon as it is available.
  JR> Joan Riches
   

  JR> -----Original Message-----
  JR> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  JR> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
  JR> Of Veronica
  JR> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 7:22 AM
  JR> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
  JR> Subject: Re:[OTlist] What to do?

  JR> Hi Ron,
   
  JR> Didn't mean to cause offence (if I did, apologies!).  I did realise that 
you
  JR> were seeing the lady from your email, but was wondering if PT was also
  JR> involved to address purely mobility issues.  
   
  JR> And I agree that from a philosophical point of view it raises a can of
  JR> worms!  We so often see clients that have 'mobility' difficulties and 
their
  JR> main goal is to 'walk'.  They don't understand the other factors that need
  JR> to be addressed at the same time.  
   
  JR> Similar factors affect the therapy input that we provide for kids (only
  JR> there you also have the parents and teachers adding their concerns).  With
  JR> kids we end up asking: 'who is the client?' and 'who's goals do you 
treat?'
  JR> is it the parent or the teacher who's goals take precedence, or do we 
listen
  JR> to what the children say and focus on their desires...  I could add my
  JR> opinion (and the opinion of a number of other OT's that I've spoken to),
  JR> where the child is our primary client and the one who's wishes should be
  JR> considered.  The problem arises when you have mom who wants little Johnny 
to
  JR> write neatly and the teachers who want little Johnny to sit still in class
  JR> and pay attention.  All legitimate concerns but not something that
  JR> particularly bothers little Johnny and not something that he is 
particularly
  JR> keen on or motivated to do!!!
   
  JR> Veronica
   
  JR> PS in answer to the question 'should you be seeing her' my answer is: what
  JR> would happen if you DIDN'T see her?

  JR> Ron Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
  JR> Hello Veronica:

  JR> I am seeing the patient! However, I am struggling to understand if I
  JR> should be seeing the patient because she doesn't identify any
  JR> occupational goals. I used to tell students, if there no occupational
  JR> goals identified, then there's no role for OT. The goals with the client
  JR> are mobility related like: "Client will safely ambulate to bathroom
  JR> using appropriate mobility aid". I am comfortable with the goal IF the
  JR> client identified the deficit. But she didn't, I did! I know that in
  JR> some cases, clients are cognitively unable to identify goals, but such
  JR> is not the case with this client.

  JR> What I am asking is more of a philosophical rather than practical
  JR> question. Of course, the client needs therapy and of course, OT can
  JR> treat the client but based on our treatment philosophy of being
  JR> client-centered and addressing occupation, my question is SHOULD I be
  JR> seeing her?

  JR> Ron




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