Hello Joe,

I believe that one of the major obstacles facing OT is that quite a few OTs are 
providing misleading information to referral sources, patients, other 
professionals and the general public regarding exactly what they do as a 
profession.  If you poll nurses, you will generally get those that feel OT does 
the upper body and those that feel OT does ADL.  It is a direct consequence of 
occupational therapists framing themselves in a context not based in the 
framework of their profession.  How many times have you seen physician 
referrals regarding OT for upper extremity ROM?  How many times have you heard 
reports of lackluster interest in past OT coupled with enthusiasm for PT with 
the stated reason, "I just want to walk."  Could it be that the PT goal of 
improving the ability to walk has a more tangible benefit to the patient 
(sarcasm intended)? Don't get me wrong, I'm not stating that there can't be a 
tangible beneift to OT, but patient's don't see that benefit if the OT only 
marches in to do UE exercise and help them get dressed.

Jimmie  

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Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 7:42 AM
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Subject: Re: Re[2]: [OTlist] Army OT/PT Descriptions


Hi Ron:

OTAs can enlist in the army. Additionally, the army does train its own OTAs
as well. http://www.cs.amedd.army.mil/dms/otbranch/default.htm. They are
usually called OT specialists in the army.  I agree that our product is
diverse and thus, the scope is wide. I am convinced that if we all accept
that with different settings our practice mode may differ (i.e. one aspect
of the domain may take precedence over the other, e.g. a hand clinic versus
a shelter-home versus an acute care hospital) although not deviating from
our core principles that thread us together, we will still be able to
package our product. Our profession may be fluid but we can give it the
shape of a container. Barring just a few inconsistencies, I felt the AOTA
framework is a commendable tool to introspect our own practice similarities
and differences (explain what we do internally), find that 'thread' that
binds the OT community together and then externalize it as an easily
identifiable product (1). I hope that this could be a part of the OT
curriculum as well, so that all new grads can identify with a common
practice framework versus what one school wanted to follow over the other. I
believe it is now is a part of the ACOTE standards.
Other links:
http://www.goarmy.com/amedd/army_health_care_corps.jsp-  Recruiting as an OT
http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/navynec/blhm8467.htm Recruiting
as an OTA

1. AOTA (2002). Occupational therapy practice framework: Domain and
processs. American Jouranal Occupational Therapy. 56, 609-639.
Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Carson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Joe Wells" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 1:56 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [OTlist] Army OT/PT Descriptions


> Hello Joe:
>
> Good idea to do further investigating and great links, thanks!
>
> The  Army  brochure that I used for my quoted does contain comprehensive
> info  about  OT.  Perhaps I should have included some quotes relating to
> group therapy, alcohol rehab, etc.
>
> Maybe  I  missed  it,  but  I haven't read anything about the Army using
> OTA's. I am interested to hear if they in fact, they do.
>
> One of the reasons I posted my original message is because of the recent
> discussions  about  marketing  "out  product".  I  am convinced that our
> product is too diverse, inconsistent and misunderstood to market. Until,
> the  profession  of  OT's  internal structure is more clearly defined, I
> think that marketing is not a good use of resources.
>
> Somehow,  AOTA  and  practicing OT's, must develop a model of theory and
> practice  that  is specialized, understood by both internal and external
> audiences,  deliverable  and  practiced. To date, in my opinion this has
> not happened.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joe Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005
> To:   [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subj: [OTlist] Army OT/PT Descriptions
>
> JW> Hi Ron:
>
> JW> Just out of curiousity, I checked the Walter Reed Medical Center
> website
> JW> http://www.wramc.amedd.army.mil/departments/Ortho/PhysMed/otscope.htm.
> The
> JW> OT scope explained there is a little more comprehensive. I also
> checked the
> JW> PT scope at
> JW> http://www.wramc.amedd.army.mil/departments/Ortho/PhysMed/ptscope.htm
> and
> JW> found the scopes to have a lot of areas overlapping. In the military,
> my
> JW> guess is that the model is very transdisciplinary. I believe the
> student
> JW> appointment is an internship (level II fieldwork) affiliation since
> there
> JW> are no OT academic programs in the Army, although as you mentioned,
> they do
> JW> have a DPT program at the US Army- Baylor University
> JW> (http://www.amsc.amedd.army.mil/training.asp).  The army does train
> its own
> JW> OTAs. More on the OT internship program
> JW> http://www.amsc.amedd.army.mil/Doc/otintership.pdf.  Do we have any
> army OTs
> JW> on the board ? It would be nice to hear about their army expeeiences.
>
> JW> Other Army sites:
> JW> http://www.wramc.amedd.army.mil/departments/Ortho/index.htm
> JW> http://www.amsc.amedd.army.mil/about.asp
>
> JW> Joe
>
>
>
>
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