Hi Ron!

Wow - he's 90, and he still had a total knee replacement - rather 
recently, right? I take that as a sign that he's generally in good 
health, and that prevention would still be really "medically" 
meaningful - like joint protection techniques (which is much more than 
saying: "don't over-stress your joints"). The equipment I had in mind 
also helps with that - small stuff like the knife with a saw-like 
handle - anything to make handles of kitchen tools, pencils etc. 
thicker - (non-slip) help for opening bottles, cans, faucets etc... (Not 
sure if you're already familiar with all that, and it's difficult for me 
to translate into English, not knowing what is available etc. Can 
someone else help, please?)

In my experience, when you're living with cronic pain, even little 
things you can do yourself to somewhat ease/prevent the pain is soooo 
helpful - it's about who's in control of your life - you, or the pain. 
(Or - the difference between helplessness/depression/social isolation - 
and coping/participation.)

I am hoping you might have the option of doing e.g. a kitchen activity 
with him, where you can let him try out some simple, cheap equipment and 
the joint protection techniques - often the relief is instantly felt! Of 
course you'll have to consider his LE problems too - will he need to sit 
down sometimes while working? Then you could help him set up his kitchen 
routines for that - don't do it for him but help him explore!

Like Kim said, I would suggest to get the elbow pain checked out. Also - 
it's not usually the joint most strained during 
DL/housework/self-care  - so I'm not quite sure how to "unload" it. 
(Elbow soft tissue can be much affected by screwing motions though. 
Telling him not to use e.g. screwdriver might assist him in asking from 
help from family?)

>He could NOT identify any pattern to his pain.........

Would prompt me to go deeper into it - like suggesting a 
pain-and-activity diary for a week. Be his coach in this journey - your 
being there right now is his chance to take a deeper look at himself, 
activity-wise. Yeah - we "could" all do this ourselves, but do we? Same 
goes for testing what is helpful from the outside - heat, cooling, pills 
(how fast do they work, and for how long) - his chance to report to you 
is what will make him be very aware. Most likely he'll draw his own 
conclusions, and you just write them down...

Kim wrote:
I agree with the previous
> respondent about joint protection techniques.  There are lots of great
> patient handouts on this topic out there.

And he may already have read them, but going through the motions with 
you, in his own home is so different....You know?

You wrote:
> The  man  may  find some temporary relief from some modalities but 
> these
> are just temporary measures.

Untill you hopefully help him integrate them into his daily routines and 
conciousness, right?!

I'll pause for now, not sure how much of this you already know? IMO OT 
has a lot to offer to artritis sufferers - much more than I can put into 
a single mail...

best wishes

susanne, denmark

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kim Masker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Treatment Ideas


> Any numbness or tingling in the hands?  Have you ruled out compression
> neuropathy at the elbow?  This can present as a very painful elbow. 
> Hard to
> say without seeing him.  Considering his spinal and LE hx., it's 
> probably
> OA, though.  Has he had x-rays of the elbows?  I agree with the 
> previous
> respondent about joint protection techniques.  There are lots of great
> patient handouts on this topic out there.  Also, sleeping postures. 
> Hugging
> a pillow at night may limit the extreme flexion of the elbows that 
> most of
> us have at night...that old fetal position...which might decrease some 
> of
> the pain to start with first thing in the morning.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf
> Of Ron Carson
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 6:31 AM
> To: susanne
> Subject: Re: [OTlist] Treatment Ideas
>
> Hello Susan:
>
> This  is  a  90  y/o  man  who  has  been  VERY active most of his 
> life,
> especially when he was younger. He played lots of contact sports and 
> has
> worked with his hands all his life.
>
> Alas,  age  has  caught up with him and while still active he does a 
> lot
> less than he once did. However, he still gets up in the early morning 
> to
> do  his  exercise which he readily demonstrated for me.
>
> I  asked  him  how his OA was limiting him and he could not identify 
> any
> specific   areas.  He  is  independent  with  self-care.  He  does 
> have
> considerable  pain  during  UE  ROM  (especially in his elbows) and 
> even
> during  rest. At times, the pain is quite debilitating (7 out of 10). 
> He
> could NOT identify any pattern to his pain and has not been able to 
> find
> any  relief.  I  did not observe any deformation in his joints, 
> although
> there  is  obviously some secondary to the OA. He is on a limited 
> income
> so purchasing equipment/braces, etc may not be an option.
>
> It seems his primary complaints are related to pain.
>
> Here's  the  funny  part.  The man is currently seeing PT secondary to 
> a
> total  knee  replacement, pain in his hip and pain in his cervical 
> spine
> secondary  to  a stenosis. It just kills me that they referred him to 
> OT
> for  his  upper  extremity  problems.  Of  course  the  order  from 
> the
> orthopedic doctor did state "OT/hand therapy".
>
> The  man  may  find some temporary relief from some modalities but 
> these
> are just temporary measures. Short of saying "take your pain meds, 
> don't
> over-stress your joints, take it easy when it hurts, and be as active 
> as
> you can tolerate", I don't know what else to say.
>
> Ron
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: susanne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005
> To:   [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subj: [OTlist] Treatment Ideas
>
> s> Tell us a bit more, Ron, about the OA, the pain, and his
> s> occupations.
>
> s> Also - which previous therapy? Was he taught joint protection
> s> techniques, and is he using them? Does he have the right
> s> tools/assistive devices, and is he using them? How's the pain
> s> corresponding to activity, rest, heat, cold, time of day...?
> s> How is he responding to the pain? What would he be doing
> s> (more of) if it wasn't for the pain?
>
>>> I  don't  think  there's  anything  that I can do that will be
>>> medically
>>> necessary
>
> s> Like preventing joint deformities and thus further loss of
> s> function, and further pain... ?
>
> s> susanne, denmark
>
> s> ----- Original Message ----- 
> s> From: "Ron Carson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> s> To: <[email protected]>
> s> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 1:33 AM
> s> Subject: [OTlist] Treatment Ideas
>
>
>>>I  have  received  a  referral  for  a  client for UE rehab - gotta
>>>love
>>> THAT!!!
>>>
>>> Anyway,  the  guy  has some OT in his UE and I don't know what to 
>>> do.
>>> He
>>> has  good  ROM  but pain. He is not limited in his daily occupations
>>> but
>>> has  pain  while  doing  them.  He has found no relief from any
>>> previous
>>> therapy.
>>>
>>> I  don't  think  there's  anything  that I can do that will be
>>> medically
>>> necessary. But I am looking for suggestions!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
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