Hello Ron, my favorite rebel, I mean, OT. And, I am trying to figure out if this conversation is leading to a discussion about movement science or is still dealing with the difference between OT and PT.
I think the OT/PT difference issue is a well discussed topic here and elsewhere, but, to talk about movement science would be fun. So, lets talk about kayaking and fishing.....I think they both have to do with movement science.....some with automatic, lower brain center controlled movement and some with conscious, voluntary, skilled movement. And, I wish I was doing both right now. Caught anything lately? Want to take me fishing this summer when I come down? David A. Lehman, PhD (in movement science :) , PT Associate Professor Tennessee State University Department of Physical Therapy 3500 John A. Merritt Blvd. Nashville, TN 37209 615-963-5946 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Carson Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:10 AM To: susanne Subject: Re: [OTlist] Disturbing Message, Please Respond Hello Susanne: I guess the movement science folk are in stark disagreement with my 'primitive instinct' approach to movement, huh? I really wonder, are patients motivated by 'walking over to the lunch table' or is walking itself the motivation. Let's do a compare and contrast: It's 4:06 in the morning and I'm getting ready to go kayak fishing. I have a couple of miles to kayak before reaching my spot, so what motivates me to do this; is it the process of kayaking or the product of fishing? Now that I think about, this has nothing to do with the topic at hand, so I'm going fishing! <LOL> Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: susanne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subj: [OTlist] Disturbing Message, Please Respond s> "Movement science" is the answer I usually got when asking a PT why we s> suddenly seemed to think and act so alike:-) They now knew that to best s> initate movement the patient had to know: Movement towards what? Like s> walking over to the lunch table.... I always felt this helped our mutual s> understanding and cooperation. I never felt they stole away much of my s> job though - like, say, dealing with the patient's problems with eating, s> having lunch in a social setting etc.... s> Just an example. In general - the (Movement Science oriented) PT will s> want to know some of what might motivate this patient - in order to s> better plan treatment - to use meaningful goals (targets?) for the s> movement they work on. This does not mean they work on the full scoope s> of the patient's activity goals (wanted/needed occupations) like we do. s> It just sometimes looks the same from the outside - if you just see the s> trailer and not the whole movie... s> susanne, denmark s> ---- Original Message ---- s> From: "Ron Carson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> s> To: <[email protected]> s> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 2:15 AM s> Subject: [OTlist] Disturbing Message, Please Respond >> Hello All: >> >> Recently, I received a 'disturbing' message from a fellow >> therapist. I say 'disturbing' because I really don't know how to >> respond. So, I asked the person if I could post there message and >> they agreed. The person is on the OTlist but I will leave it to >> them to disclose who they are, if they wish. >> >> Please take a minute and read this therapists message and >> respond accordingly. I really feel this person's pain but I >> don't have any advice off the top of my head. I think the message is >> a good catalyst to open a much needed discussion. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ron >> >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Original Message Follows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Hi Ron I am a Cota of 10 years practice in LTC. I am in the work >> of starting the bridge program at [ommited]this year for OTR >> program. But for the past few months I may be changing my mind. I >> cannot help but to wonder what makes OT and PT different from each >> other. AS I do research on scope of practice in each field I >> read terms of functional, ADL retraining in self care in home, >> community or work integration repeated over and over again. I find >> these term in PT scope of practice. Goals as you know are the >> foundations of OT. ON many occasion as I work in the rehab room I >> look over in shock as the PT will perform mock kitchen act such as >> cones in different areas, bathroom transfers. Which make it very hard >> to explain to the patient the purpose of certain act to achieve >> function when PT has already address this. I am amazed of how >> many doctors will order PT for shoulder injuries. So I am trying >> to figure out what make OT different from PT. I wonder if years from >> doctors will just order PT service since the scope of practice are >> pretty much the same. >> >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< End of Message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Unsubscribe? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Change options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] Help? [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Change options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] Help? [EMAIL PROTECTED]
