Susanne, I was unaware that this is an international list, let's begin there. Secondly, it is implicit in the content of my message that I am inquiring about the AOTA (American Occupational Therapy Association). Frankly, I am uninterested in the organization of OT in Denmark at this point in time. No offense, but unless I was planning to relocate there, my energies are better spent with the concerns of my current environment. As for "alphabet soup" I'm afraid that either your barb was misdirected, or I must have missed the Danish sense of humor with which it was spirited. I believe that Ron's sound advice of hitting the delete button would have been a more appropriate option for you in this instance. Good day.
Bill Maloney --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Send OTlist mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > http://otnow.com/mailman/listinfo/otlist_otnow.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OTlist digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: questions ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 2. Re: questions (Ron Carson) > 3. Re: questions (Michael W. K. Chan) > 4. Re: questions (Chris Smith) > 5. Re: OTlist Digest, Vol 15, Issue 2 (Brett > Merriman) > 6. Re: questions (Jeanie Fountain) > 7. Questions (Joy Harris) > 8. Re: questions (Ron Carson) > 9. Re: questions (susanne) > 10. Comments regarding U.S. only messages (Ron > Carson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:28:33 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [OTlist] questions > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Response: AOTA YES > STATE YES > NBCOT YES > > > WHY WOULDN"T YOU???? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:08:07 -0400 > From: Ron Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OTlist] questions > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > For one, I have not considered my State > association membership to be > worth the money. Even though I recently joined, > I am not sure that I > will renew. > > Regarding AOTA, I am not pleased with the way our > leaders present our > profession. I sometimes feel that some AOTA > leaders have a PollyAnna > perspective. > > For example, a while back one of our leaders stated: > > "In the United States, occupational therapy > is ideally suited to > meet the health needs of people of all > ages." > > Personally, I think the above quote is far > off-base and should read > something like: > > "In the United States, OT is missing the > mark on being able to > best meet the needs of patients who most > need our services." > > This is just one example of why I am questioning my > financial support of > AOTA. Granted, AOTA has personally helped me but I > am unsure of the cost > benefit of continued support. > > Ron > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subj: [OTlist] questions > > Pac> WHY WOULDN"T YOU???? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:12:46 -0400 > From: "Michael W. K. Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OTlist] questions > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > > Response: AOTA YES > > STATE YES > > NBCOT YES > > WFOT YES > > > -- > > <><><><><><><><> > > Michael W. K. Chan, MBA, OTR/L > > Global Village. > > Somewhere out there. > > Third rock from the sun. > > <><><><><><><><><> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:37:55 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Chris Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OTlist] questions > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Happy Easter to everyone,I, too, am sorely > disappointed with AOTA's unrealistic presentation of > the profession. I am in LTC with big productivity > requirements and mounds of paperwork. It is hard to > explain to patients how we are different from PT as > most of my fellow OTs don't practice occupational > based therapy. Last time I voiced these opinions i > was soundly critized by AOTA supporters. Most > therapists I know have not renewed their membership > and for the first time in the 9 years I have been > practicing neither did I. OT Practice magazine is > not worth $225. > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:07:45 -0700 > From: "Brett Merriman" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OTlist] OTlist Digest, Vol 15, Issue 2 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Any OT hand Specialists out there looking for a > great opportunity in Phoenix > area? > > Brett Merriman > Pro Med Recruiting Services > www.promedrecruitingsvc.com > 480-633-1845 > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:14:38 -0500 > From: "Jeanie Fountain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OTlist] questions > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am a member for AOTA, NBCOT and my state > association. > > For those that aren't members or are and have > complaints...have you > considered taking a position within or at least > participated in these > associations? If you have an opinion, I would > suggest participation...I > don't think that we would continue to have a > profession without the works of > these associations. > > Or maybe we should just let APTA take over our > profession too??? > > It is very sad that so many of our colleagues refuse > to support our > profession (IN ANY WAY)...but continue to reap the > benefits of an amazing > profession. > > Jeanie Fountain, OTR/L, COF > Area Manager, Quad Cities > MILLENNIUM THERAPY SERVICES > 401 Trilein, Suite 4; P.O. Box 367 > Ankeny, Iowa 50021 > cell: 563.543.4525 > fax: 563.514.0667 > > "When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with the > humble is wisdom." > Proverbs 11:2 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Bill Maloney > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [OTlist] questions > > This is my first posting to this list. I am curious > about a few things, so please feel free to respond: > > How many of you reading this are currently members > of > AOTA? Your state OT association? Use designation of > OTR, indicating that you are current with the NBCOT? > > How many of your colleagues (same questions as above > if you know)? > > Thanks, > Bill Maloney, OTR > > -- > Unsubscribe? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Change options? > www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com > > Archive? > www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > Help? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:37:40 -0400 > From: "Joy Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [OTlist] Questions > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > AOTA - yes - (ever since grad school - 19 years) > State - yes (on and off over the years) > NBCOT - yes > > Most of my colleagues are not members of AOTA or > State association.....,. > > > Joy Harris, M.S. OTR/L > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 3:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: OTlist Digest, Vol 15, Issue 2 > > Send OTlist mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > http://otnow.com/mailman/listinfo/otlist_otnow.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific than > "Re: Contents of OTlist digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. questions (Bill Maloney) > 2. Re: questions (Ron Carson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:03:25 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bill Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [OTlist] questions > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > This is my first posting to this list. I am curious > about a few things, so > please feel free to respond: > > How many of you reading this are currently members > of AOTA? Your state OT > association? Use designation of OTR, indicating that > you are current with > the NBCOT? > How many of your colleagues (same questions as above > if you know)? > > Thanks, > Bill Maloney, OTR > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 05:59:28 -0400 > From: Ron Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OTlist] questions > To: Bill Maloney <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello Bill, thanks for posting.... > > Regarding your questions: > > 1. AOTA = Yes <but set to expire at the end of this > month> > > 2. State = Yes <but just recently joined> > > 3. NBCOT = Yes > > 4. Colleagues = Don't know > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subj: [OTlist] questions > > BM> This is my first posting to this list. I am > curious about a few > BM> things, so please feel free to respond: > > BM> How many of you reading this are currently > members of AOTA? Your > BM> state OT association? Use designation of OTR, > indicating that you > BM> are current with the NBCOT? > BM> How many of your colleagues (same questions as > above if you know)? > > BM> Thanks, > BM> Bill Maloney, OTR > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > Unsubscribe? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Change options? > www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com > > Archive? > www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > Help? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > End of OTlist Digest, Vol 15, Issue 2 > ************************************* > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:01:12 -0400 > From: Ron Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OTlist] questions > To: Jeanie Fountain <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello Jeanie: > > Thanks for writing... > > Isn't our membership considered participation? > > Also, serving in a either a State or National > organization is not for > everyone. But, that does not mean that those of > us not serving should > not voice our opinions, both positive and > negative. And, I think > national and state organizations are cutting off > their faces to spite > their noses. > > For example, awhile back, I went through a ruckus > because my state OT > association did not like my suggestion that its > list serve should be > made available to non-members. At the time, I was > not a member of the > organization and I took a lot of heat one, for > not being a member and > two, for suggesting that non-members should > have access to the list > serve. And even though I am a current member of > my state OT assoc, I > still think they should make their list serve > public. Heck, AOTA is the > same way. If you aren't a member, then you > can't access their list > serves. > > It's a good thing that I don't charge people for > access to OTnow. Heck, > I can't even get a single dollar donated to help > pay for this site!!! > Wait a minute... reading what I just typed, sort > of feels like the pot > calling the kettle black. I'm complaining about > AOTA wanting money for > access while at the same time complaining about > not getting donations > for OTnow, hum?? But you know what, if I did > charge for access to this > list and other resources on my site but there were > people who thought it > wasn't worth it, then I wouldn't want them to pay. > Of course, I wouldn't > offer it too them for free but I wouldn't look > down on them for not > joining. I guess that's sort of how I feel about > the whole AOTA thing. > IF people feel that there money is well spent, > they might more eagerly > give to AOTA. I for one, question the initiatives of > AOTA, so I question > giving them more money. > > I was once involved in South Carolina's state > association. Every meeting > I attended was worse than going to the > dentist. Nothing hardly got > accomplished because of all the rules and crap. > I hate bureaucracy, > maybe because I served in the U.S. Navy for 11 > years. Rules, rules and > more rules and nothing gets done! > > Jeanie, I am going to ask a straight forward > question. What do you see > that is amazing about the profession of OT? I > am not talking about > individual practitioners, but what is amazing about > our profession? > > Again, thanks for writing. Please don't take > anything I said as a > personal attack. I am just in a writing mood, > which sometimes happens > when the OT list is quiet for long periods. > > -- > Ron Carson MHS, OTR/L > HOPE Therapy Services > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jeanie Fountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subj: [OTlist] questions > > JF> I am a member for AOTA, NBCOT and my state > association. > > JF> For those that aren't members or are and have > complaints...have you > JF> considered taking a position within or at least > participated in these > JF> associations? If you have an opinion, I would > suggest participation...I > JF> don't think that we would continue to have a > profession without the works of > JF> these associations. > > JF> Or maybe we should just let APTA take over our > profession too??? > > JF> It is very sad that so many of our colleagues > refuse to support our > JF> profession (IN ANY WAY)...but continue to reap > the benefits of an amazing > JF> profession. > > JF> Jeanie Fountain, OTR/L, COF > JF> Area Manager, Quad Cities > JF> MILLENNIUM THERAPY SERVICES > JF> 401 Trilein, Suite 4; P.O. Box 367 > JF> Ankeny, Iowa 50021 > JF> cell: 563.543.4525 > JF> fax: 563.514.0667 > > JF> "When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with > the humble is wisdom." > JF> Proverbs 11:2 > > > > JF> -----Original Message----- > JF> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > JF> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > JF> Of Bill Maloney > JF> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:03 PM > JF> To: [email protected] > JF> Subject: [OTlist] questions > > JF> This is my first posting to this list. I am > curious > JF> about a few things, so please feel free to > respond: > > JF> How many of you reading this are currently > members of > JF> AOTA? Your state OT association? Use > designation of > JF> OTR, indicating that you are current with the > NBCOT? > JF> How many of your colleagues (same questions as > above > JF> if you know)? > > JF> Thanks, > JF> Bill Maloney, OTR > > JF> -- > JF> Unsubscribe? > JF> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > JF> Change options? > JF> www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com > > > JF> Archive? > JF> www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > JF> Help? > JF> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 04:30:09 +0200 > From: "susanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OTlist] questions > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: "Bill Maloney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:03 PM > Subject: [OTlist] questions > > > This is my first posting to this list. I am > curious > > about a few things, so please feel free to > respond: > > > > How many of you reading this are currently members > of > > AOTA? Your state OT association? Use designation > of > > OTR, indicating that you are current with the > NBCOT? > > How many of your colleagues (same questions as > above > > if you know)? > > You're only asking the USA members here, right? This > is an international > list - are you interested in learning how the rest > of us are organized? > If so, would you please re-phrase your question - to > involve less > alphabet soup and more description of what you want > to know? > > If not interested in reaching members outside the > USA - would you please > put "US-only" in the subject line? > > Greetings from Denmark > > susanne > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:57:36 -0400 > From: Ron Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [OTlist] Comments regarding U.S. only > messages > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello: > > I know that many countries are represented on this > list. We have members > from all over the world, but the predominate > membership is from the US. > > It has been suggested that messages addressing > situations and concerns > that are primarily within the United States be > identified as such. > > Personally, I do not see a need to do this. Just > like any list serve, > not every message applies to every member. If > anyone reads a message > that does not apply to them, and they do not wish > to respond, all they > need do is hit delete. > > If a poster wishes to append (U.S. Only) to their > subject that is fine, > but at this point in time, doing so is strictly an > option. > > Thanks, > > -- > Ron Carson MHS, OTR/L > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > Unsubscribe? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Change options? > www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com > > Archive? > www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > Help? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > End of OTlist Digest, Vol 15, Issue 3 > ************************************* > -- Unsubscribe? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Change options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] Help? [EMAIL PROTECTED]
