I've  been  spinning  this "record" for 10+ years and I'm not about to
stop now! <smile>

I  also  want  to  add  that  I  have  absolutely NO PROBLEM with OT's
addressing  physical  limitation.  Like  you  said,  we  are  shooting
ourselves  in  the  proverbial  foot  if  we  stop  treating  physical
limitations. However, I have two "buts" to add this statement:

But  1: OT must NOT address ONLY upper extremity physical function. As
occupational  experts,  we  MUST  learn  to address the musculoskeltal
function  of  all  extremities.  I'm  not  sure  about  the spine, but
definately we must address the LE.

But  2: OT must NOT address physical function for the sake of physical
function.  That  is  what PT does. OT's must address physical function
from an "empowering occupation" perspective. In other words, OT's ONLY
address  physical  function  when  improving occupation is the WRITTEN
GOAL  of  treatment  and  a  specific  physical  function is a CLEARLY
identified barrier to a SPECIFIC occupation.

For  example,  if  my  UE eval had stated something like: "You know, I
spill  food  with  my left hand and I can't get my right elbow to bend
far  enough to get food in my mouth and I so want to eat with my right
hand!"  Then,  Bam!  we  have  a  SPECIFIC  occupation that is clearly
limited by physical function.

However,  OT's  must  not  "coerce" or draw parallels between ABSTRACT
occupational  goals and physical barriers. Goals must be identified by
the  patient,  often  with the help of the OT. After all, goals should
state  what's  important  to  the PATIENT, not what's important to the
therapist,  or the referring MD. If it's not important to the patient,
then  I don't think OT should be addressing it in therapy. Again, that
should be a hallmark difference between OT and other professions.

Ron
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Ron Carson MHS, OT

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008
To:   [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subj: [OTlist] Clearly DelineatingOT and PT?

cac> I agree with the delineation provided by Ron.? As OTs though, we
cac> need not be afraid to address the physical limitation that is a
cac> barrier to the person's occupational profile.? Funny how we spend
cac> 100s of dollars a year on continuuing education that mainly focus
cac> on the impairment level, also I might add that these courses are
cac> usually endorsed by AOTA.?Funny how AOTA has this article called
cac> the practice framwork in which the restoration of?client factors
cac> a) body functions b) body structures is clearly outlined.

cac> I think the UE/LE divide has evolved out of professional
cac> courtesy over the years mainly in the relm of outpatient
cac> clinics.? I would have no objections for a PT to treat a UE/hand
cac> if they are skilled to do so.? I would have no objections for an
cac> OT to treat the LE if they are skilled to do so (I have?seldom
cac> heard of this happening though).? I think the complexeties of the
cac> of body functions and structures are large enough that both
cac> disciplines should share in the workload of research and
cac> treatment.? Again, I strongly believe that to stop treating the
cac> UE would be professional suicide for Occupational Therapy, as Ron
cac> is unfortunately experiencing firsthand in his quest to become an
cac> "occupation as an only?means" therapist.

cac> Is this record player broken?? I keep hearing the same song over and over 
again.? Smile!

cac> Chris Nahrwold MS, OTR


cac> -----Original Message-----
cac> From: Ron Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cac> To: [email protected]
cac> Sent: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 4:47 pm
cac> Subject: [OTlist] Clearly DelineatingOT and PT?



cac> Our most recent discussion leads me to ask this question:

cac> Can you CLEARLY delineate the role between PT and OT?


cac> My Answer:

cac>         PT  is  most  indicated when the FOCUS of concern (by referral
cac>         source  and/or patient) is on body parts or body processes. OT
cac>         is  most  indicated  when  the  FOCUS  of  concern is on human
cac>         occupation.

cac> Ron



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