I am a recently recertified COTA who has just started a new position working in 
an SNF.  My prior experience was PRIOR to PPS. Whew!  What a change!  I 
whole-heartedly agree with Brent's post.  I am trying my best to provide 
skilled treatment, but PPS and productivity standards set by the for-profit 
sector make that difficult.  I joined this list to get more ideas about 
functional/meaningful activities to do with my patients, so it has been very 
painful to read the extremely judgemental discussion about "bad" treatment!  I 
already feel uncomfortable with some of the choices I have to make each day. I 
am hoping that as I learn to juggle better, I will be able to provide a higher 
percentage of meaningful tx.  So I would appreciate any and all concrete 
suggestions from those who work in a similar environment, and less of the 
judgement based on uninformed assumptions.
Thank you.
Barb Howard
Grand Rapids, MI

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> Brent, 
> I believe the criticism originally came from Ron in regards to a therapist in 
> a 
> rehab hospital.? We?can all be?guilty of poor rehab at times no matter what 
> practice setting.? I responded to warn people of potential fraud that 
> therapists 
> might be committing and not even realizing it. 
> 
> Chris Nahrwold MS, OTR 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Brent Cheyne 
> To: Ron Carson 
> Sent: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 6:40 pm 
> Subject: Re: [OTlist] Arrgh! SNF OTs on the hot seat! 
> 
> 
> 
> ??? Some further thoughts on OT?practice in the?SNF. However critical and 
> disappointed some of us who don't work in SNF feel about the pracitices of 
> those 
> who do, keep in mind that each practice setting has its own unique challenges 
> and limitations. 
> ??? The PPS system has the RUG system where the highest reinbursment is for 
> those patient who participate in as much as 360 minutes of OT a week.. 
> That's? 6 
> days of 60 minute sessions, so if a person stays for a month they receive 24 
> hours (?1440 minutes) of OT in a month. And this process is multiplied 
> got?each 
> OT practitioner?by a caseload (lets say for average) 7 patients per day.?Each 
> minute of each session is structured and guided by the therapist while 
> navigating a complex system of all the other therapies, nursing care, and 
> scheduling taking place?within the facility. 
> ??? This means there is a lot of therapy? being provided and?therefore a lot 
> of 
> designing and implementing and documenting interventions. Making every? 
> minute 
> of every session wonderful, meaningful, enjoyable, and occupational is quite 
> a 
> challenge. I venture to predict that rehab professional in SNF spend more 
> time 
> with their clients than any other professionals in the whole healthcare 
> system! 
> Other posts on this list have also observed that the SNF rehab client is not 
> always the most motivated of clients either and clients are often unable to 
> identify meaningful occupations on which to base treatments. 
> ???? Due to reasons explained previously in my other recent post, and the 
> factors above, some patients might have incidences of "bad OT".? Given the 
> shear 
> abount of time spent in treatment, the odds of having some non-meaningful?or 
> bad 
> experiences are? pretty high. 
> ???? I think any of us can identify unsatisfactory experiences with 
> healthcare 
> and other professionals on occasion. I personally have had?occasional 
> frustration and disappointment?at the dentist, doctor, optometrist, or even 
> with 
> the waiter at a restaurant. I think on average there are a lot of hard 
> working 
> OTs 
> in SNF doing a great job! Of course we always hear about the worst and best 
> therapy experiences that people have. 
> ? While all the criticism, judgement and discussion ongoing in the OT 
> community 
> may be necessary to encourage us to focus on occupation, there is no shortage 
> of 
> equal scrutiny by our administrations and regulators who have there own 
> definition of what expected and required of OTs. Keeping everyone satisfied 
> in 
> no easy task and I think "bad OT "is more a function of being overwhelmed 
> than 
> being lazy. Let us find a way to support and encourage eachother! 
> Brent C 
> 
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