I couldn't agree more!!  The key word in my email was "appropriate".  



I have GREAT concerns about treatment that is done to capture minutes for the 
rehab company! ( I see this EVERY DAY, and it bothers me enough that I have 
thought about becoming a whistle-blower.) 



And I am not suggesting using a reacher in this manner.  It is therapeutic in 
that it enables SOME to engage 

in practice to develop the coordination skills needed to effectively use a 
reacher for functional activity. 



Your point about cost containment is brilliant and oh so relevant.  I just wish 
there were a way to communicate 

this to the powers that push efficiency and profit. 



Barb Howard 




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Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 9:51:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Game using reacher 

As long as the patient knows why they are practicing a specific skill then I am 
all for it.? In my experience it usually takes the cognitively intact clients a 
few activities to understand how to use a reacher, not an entire session.? They 
then can borrow a reacher to use in their room so they can practice for real, 
and then ask questions when issues arise.? Now for the cognitively impaired 
(primarily moderate to severe dementia) the practice of a reacher is a waste of 
time because patients at that level have the inability to learn new 
information.? The emphasis of treatment should at that point be on family 
training and maximizing their physical abilities, not on cognitive 
restoration.? Cognitive compensation might be an option, but don't count on it. 
For the mildly impaired I think practice in this area is critical, especially 
if they are going to be living by themsolves or not receiving 24 hour 
supervision. 

What I see in practice is therapists completing? non?therapeutic games and 
splinter skills that have no relevance except to capture minutes for a higher 
payment level.?Do not get me wrong, ?I am all for activities that promote 
social interaction and higher level balance improvement, those activities 
sounded outstanding.? In fact I might steal that one for clinical use, since it 
deals with dual task challenges, which is supported in the research.? 

The grim reality is this: if our profession as a whole continues to complete 
treatment interventions that have no relevance to the patients' improvement, 
then through the very nature of cost containment we will be phased out.? Pick 
up a new book in OT, read a new research article, go to a course, by all means 
do all you can to provide relevance to the patient's care and improvement. 

Chris Nahrwold MS, OTR 


-----Original Message----- 
From: Diane Randall <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 7:10 pm 
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Game using reacher 



Very well said!!! 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 18:16 
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Subject: Re: [OTlist] Game using reacher 


If someone is going to be using a reacher for the foreseeable future after 
D/C because of medically established precautions against trunk flexion, etc. 
then 
this kind of practice with a reacher is medically beneficial. Call it 
whatever perjorative name you like, patients enjoy activities that are 
entertaining as well as 
medically necessary/useful/goal-directed. I am certainly not going to sit 
with a patient and make him/her take her pants on and off interminably just 
because that 
is how the goal is worded - LB ADL Indep using AE... Come on, people. 
Lighten up! 

And as far as social interaction is concerned, there is NOTHING that is more 
conducive to helping patients progress, especially those in SNFs, than 
interaction with the therapist or with other patients. You don't need a 
goal. It is ALWAYS a factor, hence it is therapeutic to the goals you are 
working on. Just today, I had a patient who more easily lost his balance 
because of laughter. He is a funny guy and likes to joke around. Because I 
engaged with him, I was able to observe this phenonmenon directly. I then 
suggested that we should have him watch funny videos standing so that he can 
practice his dynamic balance. This was a direct result of social 
interaction. Social interaction 
is an integral part of any occupation, and I mean that in the broad OT sense 
of the word. Well, I guess not for hermits, or possibly accountants and 
others whose goals are impeded by interaction. But you get the drift. 

Thanks for your suggestion, Barbara. I may try this with appropriate 
patients. I have a few on my caseload with precautions like these. I find 
that competitive games are very 
helpful in supporting patients by giving them tangible evidence that they 
are not the only person in the world struggling to recover/adapt to a ne 
w 
medical condition. 

Barb Howard 

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 8:33:02 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Game using reacher 

Could not agree more. In addition, this just simply sounds 
juvenile...pediatric. Neal C. Luther,OTR/L Advanced Home Care, Burlington 
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R! 
e: [OTlist] Game using reacher I don't want to sound negative, but I can't 
help wondering what patient's think about using what should be medically 
necessary equipment to play "games". What "message" might this send to 
patients, other professionals and payers? Finally, should social interaction 
only be considered as therapeutic if it's an actual goal? Just some random 
questions. Thanks, Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT www.OTnow.com ----- Original 
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tic tac toe game that I use for a reacher training BHH> activity. The grid 
for the game is painted on a fabric square that I place BHH> within reach on 
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 BHH> the items 
fit into a tote bag and I usually hold the bag for the patient to BHH> clean 
up our game at the end by placing the bean bags in the tote bag. BHH> It is 
engaging for the pa! 
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