If a patient has an order for O2 sats to stay above 93%, then you usually have 
to take the pulse ox to determine that. I work in SNF and have never heard you 
had to have an order to use it. To me it's like blood pressure, if you think 
you should take it, take it. Use professional judgement.
 
My two cents,
 
Audra Ray, OTR/L

--- On Tue, 3/3/09, Ron Carson <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Ron Carson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OTlist] What Would YOU Do?
To: "Sue Doyle" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 4:18 AM

When  I  worked  in  rehab,  we  always used pulse ox. But, I guess it's
different in home health.

----- Original Message -----
From: Sue Doyle <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009
To:   [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subj: [OTlist] What Would YOU Do?


SD> I work in Inpatient Rehabilitation and I have never had a
SD> restriction. We use the O2 monitor all the time without needing an
SD> order. We generally report the results if anything unusual to the MD or
RN.


SD> Sue D 




>> From: [email protected]
>> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:06:28 -0500
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [OTlist] What Would YOU Do?
>> 
>> Hi..I worked in a SNF and also never heard that restriction. If we
want to  
>> take someone's O2 STATs then we just do...Cindy
>>  
>>  
>> In a message dated 3/2/2009 7:50:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
>> [email protected] writes:
>> 
>> 
>> I  work in SNF. Never heard such restriction. I hope I'm not 
alone!!
>> 
>> 
>> Carmen
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009  07:44:14 -0500
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > To:  [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [OTlist] What Would YOU Do?
>> >  
>> > It simply requires the order as a "modality". It is not
for  whatever
>> > reason considered a vital sign. 
>> > 
>> > 
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>> > Behalf Of Carmen Aguirre
>> >  Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:23 PM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> >  Subject: Re: [OTlist] What Would YOU Do?
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  
>> > I wonder why
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Carmen
>> >  
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:14:29  -0500
>> > > From: [email protected]
>> > > To:  [email protected]
>> > > Subject: Re: [OTlist] What Would YOU Do?
>> >  > 
>> > > Interesting that you mention pulse ox. My clinical director 
has
>> > > repeatedly told that staff that pulse oximetry can only be 
taken under
>> > > an MD's order.
>> > > 
>> > > Regarding  the baseline, could you use a patient's
self-reported
>> > fatigue
>> >  > level during the desired activity of ambulating to the
dining  room?
>> > Then
>> > > use this as the measurable outcome.
>> >  > 
>> > > Ron
>> > > 
>> > > ----- Original Message  -----
>> > > From: Carmen Aguirre <[email protected]>
>> >  > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009
>> > > To: [email protected]  <[email protected]>
>> > > Subj: [OTlist] What Would YOU  Do?
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > CA> I would start with  breathing exercises, 6-min
activity testing to
>> > > CA> meassure  fatigue and shortness of breath to get a
meassurable
>> > > CA>  baseline. Take pulse oxymetry and BP to help educate
when rest is
>> > >  CA> needed if not aware of it and to manage energy
levels. Work on
>> >  basic
>> > > CA> routines he wants to improve performance and 
quality; besides the
>> > > CA> actual tasks/activities teach maint.  pulmonary
exercises to manage
>> > > CA> his disease. Medication  management to assess how he
manages his
>> > > CA> disease as well.  Community resources and overall
health management
>> > > CA> skill.  Balance retraining, strengthening would be
part of my
>> > > CA>  treatment plan.
>> > > 
>> > > CA> Carmen
>> > > 
>> >  > 
>> > > CA> 
>> > > 
>> > > >> Date: Thu, 26  Feb 2009 20:15:25 -0500
>> > > >> From: [email protected]
>> >  > >> To: [email protected]
>> > > >> Subject: [OTlist]  What Would YOU Do?
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> Evaluated a  man today, recently discharged from
rehab. His primary
>> > > >>  diagnosis is congestive heart failure.
>> > > >> 
>> > >  >> He's presents with decreased fine motor
control from an  unknown
>> > > >> etiology. He has decreased lower extremity 
strength and decreased
>> > > >> balance. He is also short of  breath during
exertion.
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> He is  unable to do dishes, zip and button his
clothes. He is unable
>> >  to
>> > > >> independently sit/stand and has difficulty getting 
into his shower
>> > Also,
>> > > >> he is unable to  consistently and safely walk to
the dining room of
>> > the
>> > >  >> ALF. He desire to NOT use a wheelchair. His
primary concern  is
>> > > >> mobility-related daily living activity.
>> > >  >> 
>> > > >> What treatment MIGHT you provide this patient  and
why?
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> Thanks,
>> > >  >> 
>> > > >> Ron
>> > > >> 
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