The same discussion was had on the LINX mailing list when people stated that 
packet loss only occurred on LINX and not on a transit provider. Google piped 
in and said that rate limiting applies on various parts of their network. The 
route that your lossy traffic is taking is almost certainly different to the 
route your non-lossy traffic is taking.

Try a UDP MTR to port 53 on 8.8.8.8 – this will prove the problem either way.


From: Outages [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Izzy Goldstein 
- TeleGo via Outages
Sent: 05 January 2017 15:23
To: Simon Lockhart <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [outages] (WI) Packet Loss to Google on Charter

i dont think the issue is google

because from other connection(verizon fios etc) it works, with the same retes 
etc

and when i ping TW Default Gateways from our clients, i also have packet loss

so it appears to us, the issue is with Time Warner (surprised ?)

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Simon Lockhart via Outages 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Thu Jan 05, 2017 at 03:12:10PM +0000, Jesse Curtis via Outages wrote:
> I am getting ~50% packet loss to 8.8.8.8, 4.2.2.2, 216.58.216.238, and
> 172.217.1.46 on two separate Charter (Time Warner) lines in SE Wisconsin. It
> looks to be affecting just ping requests as DNS and google websites are still
> working.

Google have publicly stated that they rate limit ICMP to their public services
such as 8.8.8.8 - so if you're only seeing ping requests being dropped but all
other functionality operating as normal, then this is what you're seeing.

Simon
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