They sent me two devices... I had problem with the first device and
never got any response from that one... When I was almost certain about
that the code should work, then I switched to the second 1923 and I
got managed to get ONE response from it when reading addresses
0x0200-0x0220... After trying to read the humidity that device hanged
too. (I forgot to turn on the oscillator)

Right now I have 2 broken 1923, and I guess I have to order some more
just to make sure the code works now.

/Christian




On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 07:07 -0500, Alfille, Paul H.,M.D. wrote:
> "A temperature or humidity conversion must not be attempted while
> the RTC oscillator is stopped. This causes the device to enter
> en unrecoverable state"
> 
> Yes, this is a known BUG that Dallas claims is no big deal since software 
> should
> avoid doing this. There are many dead 1922s in the wold because of this. Did
> they send you one or two?
> 
> Also note that the Dallas EE-groups has a lengthy note about another bug that
> may cause startup delays:
> http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/3429
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------------------
> A design flaw was found in the DS1922 which causes the first mission sample to
> be delayed. This problem affects all flavors of this part: DS1922L, DS1922T,
> DS1923, and DS2422. There are 2 cases to consider for examining the impact of
> this problem. The first case is for a DS1922 in an application where the 
> mission
> may be stopped and started regularly during its use. In this case, each time a
> new mission is started the first sample could be delayed by as much as one
> sample period. For example, when using a 10 minute sample rate and the mission
> is re-started at 1:00, the first sample could be recorded anywhere between 
> 1:00
> and 1:10. Every sample thereafter will be recorded at the regular 10 minute
> rate.
> 
> The second case to consider is when prototyping and experimenting with 
> different
> values for the Sample Rate and the "Enable High-Speed Sampling" bit. The 
> impact
> in this case can be a much larger delay, but the delay is predictable and can 
> be
> shortened easily. What happens is that after a new mission is started, the
> device records its first sample (records mission timestamp, etc) and 
> internally
> copies the Sample Rate register value to an internal countdown register. When
> this count reaches zero, the next sample is taken. The Clear Memory command
> should have erased this internal register to zero, but it does not and that is
> the cause of the flaw. When the mission is stopped, the countdown is halted in
> some arbitrary value between 0 and the Sample Rate value. This means that when
> another new mission is started, instead of taking the first sample right away,
> this internal countdown register must finish the previously halted countdown.
> 
> When using high-speed sampling (EHSS=1), this problem is hardly noticeable. 
> When
> stopping and starting new missions at 10 second intervals, there could be a as
> many as 10 seconds for the new mission to start. The real problem, where the
> delay is noticed drastically, when switching from 10 second intervals to 1
> minute intervals. In this case, the internal countdown register has a value
> between 0 and 10, but it is now counting down in minutes, instead of in 
> seconds.
> So the delay could be as long as 10 minutes for the first sample, then 1 
> minute
> for each sample thereafter.
> 
> The OneWireViewer app makes it easy to get caught by this issue since the 
> field
> for starting new missions is in seconds. If the mission Sample Rate is evenly
> divisible by 60 (or greater than the max value), then the Sample Rate is 
> divided
> down and the EHSS bit is cleared. So, if for example a mission was started 
> with
> a Sample Rate of 601 seconds, the EHSS bit would be set and the Sample Rate
> register would contain the value "601". If subsequently a new mission was
> started with the value 600 seconds, the EHSS bit would be cleared and the 
> Sample
> Rate register would have contained the value "10". But, before the iButton
> started taking samples at the 10 minute rate, it would first have to countdown
> somewhere between 0-601 minutes.
> 
> The best workaround right now is that when a DS1922 is delayed in its mission
> start time when using minute resolution, stop and start a new mission with "1
> second" resolution (EHSS=1, SR=1). After that new mission starts, stop it and
> start a new mission containing your desired mission parameters. This reduces 
> the
> delay before the mission start significantly (and doesn't reduce the lifetime 
> of
> the part, since no samples are taken during that interval while the internal
> countdown register finishes).
> 
> Note that when performing a Start Upon Temperature Alarm (SUTA) mission, the
> device samples the temperature for the alarming condition at the same rate as
> your Sample Rate, which means it is effected by the same flaw. The first 
> sample
> of the temperature and check for alarm will occur after the internal countdown
> is complete.
> 
> In the general case of stopping and starting new missions frequently, reading
> the RTC immediately after halting the mission (or halt the mission and RTC at
> approximately the same time) allows the system to predict very accurately what
> the value of the internal countdown register is by measuring the time between
> the last recorded sample's timestamp and the current value of the RTC. In this
> manner, it's possible to calculate how many minutes/seconds delay are needed 
> so
> that the mission can be started at a pre-decided time. Since this problem
> doesn't conceivably affect most applications (stop/start and change mission
> parameters seems more likely during prototyping), it is recommended that
> prototyping be done with smaller values and EHSS=1. If longer sample rates are
> need, on the order of minutes, it is recommended to proceed with caution and 
> use
> the RTC to predict the value of this hidden internal register.
> 
> This cause of this problem has been identified and fixed by Design Engineering
> and will be included in the next revision of the part. This revision is
> scheduled for Summer of 2005.
> 
> 
> 
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