When this all works, I  want pictures and a description for the website!

On Saturday 09 April 2005 09:33 pm, Hans Parkmann wrote:
> Hello owfs-users and developers,
>
> I just, registered to this mailing list. I am the one who had the
> questions on "stepper driving with  owfs", Paul was so kind to post them
> here.
>
> I got my DS9490R from Dallas today and I got it running with owfs
> (latest daily package) under gentoo. I can mount it as root and acces
> the bus as user.
> Note: It took some research how to pass the "-x" command to fusermount ,
> I use fuse 2.2 pre 3 and --fuse-opts"allow_other" did the trick for me,
> there should be some advice in the faq that tells you how to pass the
> option correctly according to the fuse version used. I run Gentoo Kernel
> 2.6.10

Thanks.
Was setting up owfs with Gentoo any difficulty?

>
> I plan to use the one wire bus mostly for environment control
> (Terrarium) and as timer.
> At the then the bus weight will be around 30m-40m with around 6-8
> sensors (Temperature, humidity, light) 6-7 relais, and one 12v stepper
> motor. Is standard telephone cable still good enough for this cable
> weight? Or should I go with cat5 cable ... its all in the cable
> according to  the dallas application notes ;)
My reading says that bus reflections are the critical element -- a linear 
rather than branched topology is better.
>
> So far I only got the sensor readout working. I write my applications in
> Gambas what is a kind of Virtual Basic (please dont throw stones on me),
> its not C, but very easy to learn. The only programming experience I
> have is qbasic to for me its a gigantic step forward.
Gambas sounds good. Too bad swig doesn't support it. You'll have to use the 
filesystem interface, as opposed to direct calls within Gambas.

>
> The next step will be relais control, I will use DS2408 for this ,
> someone mentioned I should use logic 0 the switch instead of logic 1.
> Why is it better this way?
This is a little confusing. In OWFS, you use "1" to turn on a PIO (switch) 
which seems logical. What you are actually doing is making the pin conduct to 
ground, so the actual hardware command sends a "0" to the pin, and reading 
the logical value at that pin (sensed property) will be a "0" since the pin 
is at ground.

>
> I finally understood how an optokoppler works (my electronic knowledge
> is still very basic, 3 innocent optokopplers went up in smoke but now I
> know how they work), the relais are very simple : BC517, CNY17-2, LED,
> Resistor, some diodes, I   would connect everything this way :
>
> 1.PIO PIN goes LOW
> 2.Optokoppler transistor switches
> 3.Collector Emitter voltage connects to BC 517 Base Voltage
> 4.BC 517 switches and power is going through the Relais
>
> This circuit was tested (without DS2408 just some wires and powersupply)
> and I hope it will work, it will be tested tomorrow but if you think
> anything should be done different please post it.
> When the Relais run I will investigate the stepper control further...
>
> My final and most important question :
>
> On the DS9490R there are two Grounds : "1-wire GND / Return" and "power
> ground"
> I assume power ground is for the is the gnd for the +5V stolen from the
> USB Port, so I wont need this.

> But when I use an external power supply to power the sensors / IO chips,
> do I have to connect 1-wire Ground even when i already have connected
> the gnd pin of the chip to the GND of my power supply?
> I mean when the ground wire from my power supply and 1-wire ground are
> connected to the same pin could this harm my Adapter or USB Port? The
> power Supply will power all Bus devices(5v), relais(5v) and 3 PC
> Fans(12v)  so I am afraid this could do damage to the port.
>
I'm a little lost. You can have two separate circuits: 1-wire with power, data 
and ground, and a separate power line with power and ground. You would have 
to keep them separate by using the relays. That's one advantage of the Cat5: 
more wires and bigger gauge.

I can't think of a reason not to tie all the grounds together, unless you 
expect a lot of noise on the separate power line.

> Thanks for all your help, this mailing list is really helping, without
> it I would still sit here and wonder why I cant access my USB-dongle :)
>
> Thats all for now, please forgive my poor english I am german.
> Simon
>
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