OK, got it thanks

Colin

On 5 November 2016 at 09:05, Enrico Hoepfner <enrico.hoepf...@gmx.de> wrote:

> Hello Colin,
>
>  the workaround is for instance, to use
>
> owget -s 192.168.1.183:10000 /bus.2/28.F51ECA030000/temperature9
>
> instead of
>
> owget -s 192.168.1.183:10000 /28.F51ECA030000/temperature9
>
>  eni
>
>
> On 05.11.2016 09:35, Colin Law wrote:
>
> On 5 November 2016 at 08:30, Enrico Hoepfner <enrico.hoepf...@gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Colin,
>>
>> I've found a workaround - only use an other path to read from owfs-server
>> and dont need any retry anymore.
>> Workaround is to use /bus.x/<ADDRESS>/<VALUE> instead of
>> /<ADDRESS>/<VALUE>.
>> Have you a possibility to try, if this is working on your system also?
>>
>
> Sorry I don't understand exactly what you mean by that. Could you give a
> specific example of what you mean?
>
> Colin
>
>
>
>>
>> I dont found the reason for that, but it works stable (with 0 retry)
>> since 24 hours (14 devices, on 4 buses, read/write every 20 seconds) on my
>> owfs-server.
>>
>> So I hope, it would be possible to get this working stable also with
>> access over /<ADDRESS>/<VALUE>
>>
>>
>> Could it have do something with this hint in the kernel-driver from
>> 1w-gpio
>>
>> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/w1/w1.generic
>> =========
>> ...
>>
>> It is possible that between 1. and 2. w1 master thread will reset bus for 
>> searching
>> and slave device will be even removed, but in this case 0xff will
>> be read, since no device was selected.
>> ...
>>
>> =========
>>
>> I've seen in the debuglevel-log from owfs-server that this is searching
>> on each bus-master when I access with /<ADDRESS>/<VALUE>.
>>
>> eni
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05.11.2016 09:08, Colin Law wrote:
>>
>> On 5 November 2016 at 07:03, eni < <enrico.hoepf...@gmx.de>
>> enrico.hoepf...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Colin,
>>>
>>> I've exactly the same problem, also with raspberry pi and
>>> w1-kernel-modul.
>>> I've implemented a retry on client-side (OWNet.pm), this works mostly in
>>> the
>>> second try, maximum at the fourth time.
>>> could it be there is a timing problem with w1-kernel-modul?
>>>
>>
>> I suspect, as Jan suggested that it is due to the fact that the kernel
>> uses 'bit banging' which means that it drives the 1-wire directly under s/w
>> control. This is inherently unreliable as occasionally something more
>> important will come along that the processor needs to do and the 1-wire
>> signal gets disrupted. I think probably best just to accept that retries
>> are necessary when driving the bus in this way.
>>
>> Colin
>>
>>
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