I really would have liked to have a reasonable discussion, but now it's getting ridiculous. Writing something like this doesn't even provide any basis of discussion: "I hope Flattr doesn't just send money to people reaching out to them, claiming that they are the rightful owner of the money." I don't want to clarify this.
The only thing I want to clarify is that Flattr is a trustworthy company, much more trustworthy than Paypal. I think the best for ownCloud is to end this discussion now. I wanted to discuss a valid point and still think it is one, but I don't want to get down to this ridiculous basis. Cheers Michael On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Cornelius Schumacher <[email protected]>wrote: > On Saturday 08 October 2011 Michael Grosser wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Cornelius Schumacher > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > If a community member has the account it's a private account with all > the > > > risks and problems. It might sound like theory, but what happens when > the > > > community member doesn't care anymore, and doesn't reply to any > requests? > > > The > > > money is missing and there is no way to get it. Stuff like this does > > > happen, > > > so I would avoid it. > > > > It's easily avoidable. Just reach out to flattr. Or use a > > [email protected] mail and it can be redirected if someone isn't > > answering. > > I hope Flattr doesn't just send money to people reaching out to them, > claiming > that they are the rightful owner of the money. > > > I thought the good thing about being open is the ability to use something > > new and I would really appreciate ownCloud being open and modern, so give > > the user at least the ability to not use paypal. > > Being open and using something new are different things. Especially when it > comes to money it's not bad to be careful and not just experiment. But this > doesn't mean at all that you can't be open and innovative. > > ownCloud is modern, new, and exciting because it's a great, modern idea > with a > vital community behind it, not because it uses donation buttons which are > trendy. > > > I'm not saying we can't integrate a paypal button for kde on the > > contribution page, but I like the idea of flattr and I would love this > > account to be dedicated, even if it just is a dedicated account for > > dedicated labeling. > > Flattr is on a different level than Paypal. Paypal is just a payment > system, > and you will still need either Paypal or something similar to be able to > transfer money via Flattr. > > Flattr adds community micro-payment to this, and it's mostly targeted > towards > blogs. I'm not sure, it adds a lot of value for software projects, which is > worth the 10% fee they take from the income. > > We had the discussion within KDE, if we want to use it, and decided against > it, as there are more direct ways to donate to us, which don't involve any > fees on top of the fees for the actual money transfer. > > -- > Cornelius Schumacher <[email protected]> > _______________________________________________ > Owncloud mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud >
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