On Sat, Mar 09, 2013 at 06:41:22PM +0100, Thomas Tanghus wrote: > On Saturday 09 March 2013 16:11 Chris Green wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 09, 2013 at 02:36:17PM +0000, Chris Green wrote: > > > Name fields:- > > > > > > I would *really* prefer to be able to sort on last/family name. It > > > seems as if owncloud sorts on the display name and doesn't offer any > > > alternative. > > Yes currently only by display name. We discussed it briefly in > https://github.com/owncloud/apps/issues/97 > Feel free to file a feature request :) > OK, I'll definitely do that as sorting by family name makes *much* more sense. Where do I put feature requests - are they just issues?
> > > In addition it would be useful if the name editing was more explicit > > > about how display name, given name and family name are handled. > > > > > > What is one expected to do for business names? > > What do you mean about business names? Currently ORG and TITLE support is > implemented https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2426#section-3.5 > The trouble is that if one just types a name in the "Enter name" field it all gets put into Family Name, so there's no differentiation between my friend "James Smith" and a company called "Jammy Dodgers", they both get sorted by the "Jam....". > > It actually seems rather more broken than I thought. > > > > If you simply enter a name in the "Enter name" box then *all* of it gets > > put into Last Name/Family Name in the vCard - this is plain wrong. If > > you then synchronise this with another program that does things right it > > all gets very confusing. > > Well it's a compromise between simplicity in the UX and supporting the rfc as > good as possible. The current implementation parses the formatted display > name > after a basic, western style first name, additional names and last name and No it doesn't, if I enter "James Smith" as the name then it's simply filed with a Family Name of "James Smith" and all the other fields are empty. Even more confusing, if I edit the "James Smith" entry and put "Smith, James" instead then the Family Name is *still* "James Smith"! Entering "Smith, James" as a new entry still puts the whole of "Smith, James" into the family name. > doesn't deal with pre- and suffixes. I explained some of the reason in > https://github.com/owncloud/apps/issues/693 > > You also have to take into consideration that this is a relatively simple web > app, that is supposed to work sufficiently for the vast majority. It still > needs a lot of polishing, but it will never be a full blown business > application. You can easily sync with a desktop application via CardDAV if > you > want full all the bells and whistles ;) > > I've CC'd to Jan-Christoph Borchardt who is the main man for UX issues. > Yes, OK, that's what I'm doing to some extent. However just about every other address book I've played with has explicit separate fields for First Name and Last Name, I think it would be better if owncloud did the same. -- Chris Green _______________________________________________ Owncloud mailing list Owncloud@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud
