@Tom: great points! Maybe we should write those points somewhere more explicitly, like on the Google play store page?
Alessandro On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Derek Broes <[email protected]> wrote: > Is it not permissible to compile your own app with your own contributions > and sell yourself? If you add some great features to the app and maybe > change the UI a bit you can sell a different version of the app yourself as > long as you make your improvement and code availble to the community for > free. This is beauty of open source. I have my own app that has features I > built but they are features specific to ne and my company so I dobt sell > them but, I could sell ny app too. Diversity and choice is terrific. We > need more than one app anyway. Build away and I will be first in line to > buy the app. > > On Aug 30, 2013 8:12 AM, "Randolph Carter" <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Exactly the point which I wanted to raise as well. In my opinion, in >> such a case as the owncloud app it needs to be clear where the money >> goes exactly. Because why should someone work on something where >> *somebody else* earns money for it? >> >> It's not the contributing itself which is in question here; nor the fact >> that there's no money for it - I think we all know that the real benefit >> and reward of working on Open Source software lie somewhere else than in >> money. However, if contributing means helping someone else to earn >> money, without getting any oneself, that has the potential to squash any >> motivation for contributing for free. >> >> I don't argue that open source software cannot also be sold. I just want >> to make the point that in the best interest of keeping everybody >> interested in contributing, transparency of any such money flows is >> crucial! >> >> Randolph >> >> On 2013-08-30 15:06, Alessandro Cosentino wrote: >> > Sorry to butt in on this conversation, but I believe the main point, >> > on which Kelvin was confused when he asked those questions on IRC, was >> > not addressed in this thread yet. >> > Let me play his advocate here. We encouraged him to not fork the >> > project and to rather work along the owncloud community to the >> > existing app. >> > And yes, almost all of us agree that "Selling free software" is the >> > right thing to do. >> > But his point (at least on IRC) was: if I help with coding, will I get >> > a percentage of the money that users pay for the app? >> > If not, who gets the money? >> > On IRC we weren't able to address these questions. >> > >> > Alessandro >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:09 AM, Jan-Christoph Borchardt >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> In addition to what Frank said, you might find this article on >> >> »Selling Free Software« interesting: >> >> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html >> >> >> >> »Many people believe that the spirit of the GNU Project is that you >> >> should not charge money for distributing copies of software, or that >> >> you should charge as little as possible — just enough to cover the >> >> cost. This is a misunderstanding. >> >> Actually, we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge >> >> as much as they wish or can. If this seems surprising to you, please >> >> read on.« >> >> >> >> >> >> It’s similar if you look at some of the other apps interacting with >> >> ownCloud, notably the mobile apps for the News reader. >> >> There’s the Android app by David: >> >> >> >> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.luhmer.owncloudnewsreader >> >> And the iOS app by Peter: >> >> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/iocnews/id683859706 >> >> I think it’s great that they develop both open source, and charge for >> >> them too. And it’s worth it because the apps are really good! >> >> >> >> >> >> So please be welcome and contribute: http://github.com/owncloud/android >> >> :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Frank Karlitschek >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Kelvin, >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 29.08.2013, at 21:36, Kelvin Hammond <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I'm wanting to add CalDav and CardDav support to the android owncloud >> >>>> app and maybe some other features should I have the time to do so. >> >>>> >> >>>> The problem I'm running into now is that the app is for sale on the >> >>>> android market instead of free even though its open source. >> >>> >> >>> This is not an contradiction. The app is open source but also cost >> >>> $0.99 in the store. >> >>> The money is used to pay for some of the development that goes into >> >>> the app. If you don't want to spend one dollar than you can grab the >> >>> source >> >>> code from github, compile it yourself and put it on you device. But I >> >>> think >> >>> it's friendly to support the development with $0.99 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> I've paid for the app on the market already only to find that it >> >>>> doesn't support contacts or calendar sync which is what I bought it for. >> >>> >> >>> Sorry for that. I think it was in the app description that it support >> >>> access to files but no contacts/calendar syncing yet. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> I'd have no problem doing it for free if the app was free but seeing >> >>>> as how the app isn't free who does the money go to? >> >>> >> >>> The money goes to the developers who write this open source app. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> If I add these features am I allowed to fork the owncloud app and put >> >>>> it on sale on the android market? >> >>> >> >>> You are allowed to do that. It is is open source so you can fork it if >> >>> you want. But I would recommend to not do that but to contribute to the >> >>> existing app. The ownCloud community is friendly and open for new >> >>> contributors, ideas and code. So I would recommend to look at the code on >> >>> github and submit your extension and pull request. It's better to work >> >>> together instead of duplicate work. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks a lot and let me know if you have any questions. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Cheers >> >>> Frank >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Thank you, >> >>>> Kelvin Hammond >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Owncloud mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Owncloud mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Owncloud mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Owncloud mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Owncloud mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud > > > _______________________________________________ > Owncloud mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud > _______________________________________________ Owncloud mailing list [email protected] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud
