Thanks Julien


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Julien Mercay
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:49 AM
To: oxf-users
Subject: RE: Validation


Hi Peter,

Thanks for the JARV reference. We use the native API of MSV, and I
will investigate if it behaves like the JARV interface as soon as time
permits.

I can see the benefit of generated schema, and we will consider that
feature for the next release.

I'll keep you posted on any development in this area.

Regards,
Julien

--- Peter Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > Hi Julien,
 >
 > Interesting, I did not realize that you used Jing for RelaxNG.
 > Basically what we are trying to accomplish is supported by (we think)
 > Jing See http://www.xmlhack.com/read.php?item=1675 unfortunately we
 > have done a lot of modeling in W3C Schema...
 >
 > However, we could get an approximation of "progressive/feasible
 > validation"  if we could get the MSV to report errors on all
elements.
 > We would ignore all elements that reported errors which were not
 > included in the specific input were validating.
 >
 > What I saw in the MSV documentation that led me to think we could do
 > this is at the end of part 4-1 of the MSV documentation (JARV.html)
it
 > says
 >
 > " If you throw an exception from the error handler, that exception
will
 > not be catched by the verify method. So the validation is effectively
 > aborted there. If you return from the error handler
 > normally, then MSV will try to recover from the error and find as
much
 > errors as possible."
 >
 > I took this to mean that MSV could be configured
 > (through error handling) to catch multiple errors, but I have not
 > had the time to actually try it.
 >
 >
 > OPPS, I wrote schematron-validation and I meant the
 > just validation, sorry :)
 >
 > As for creating schemas on the fly, this could be
 > useful if the partial validation approaches above fail, or are not
 > powerful enough.  If we could validate against a generated schema, we

could
 > run a transformation against the master schema picking out only the
 > elements that need to be validated and use this as the input to 
schema input
 > to validation. Though this seems like a much harder approach, I can
 > see how it might be useful.
 >
 > I would imagine that if you allowed annotated
 > validation to be accessed in the same way you do pass/fail 
validation, the
 > ability to use generated schemas would be a freebee.
 >
 > Let me know if you read the MSV doc the same way I do.
 >
 > Thanks,
 >
 > Peter
 >

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