Hi Radu,
Thanks. Yes, I'll probably just do as you're suggesting and add some
type of flag so the writer can see that the start value has been set,
but not try to render the numbering. The whole "counter" feature in CSS
seems very poorly thought out to me. Massively complicated, for
something so seemingly simple, just to avoid supporting a "start"
property? Seems like a classic case of over-engineering to me.
All the best,
Scott
On 11/3/25 2:34 AM, Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu) wrote:
And a possible variant with counter-reset:
*[class~="topic/ol"][outputclass ^= "start("] {
counter-reset: item-count
oxy_subtract(oxy_substring(attr(outputclass), 6), 1, integer);
}
but it was not tested for all possible cases.
Regards,
Radu
Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor
On 11/3/25 11:06, Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu) wrote:
Hi Scott,
I see my colleagues from the WebHelp and CSS-based PDF publishing
have worked to implement out of the box in our WebHelp and PDF
publishing DITA OT plugins a construct like this for Oxygen 28:
|*<ol* outputclass="start-3"*>*|
But they did not make changes in the Oxygen Author visual page's CSS
stylesheets. I concur that using regular CSS this is quite hard to
accomplish visually in the Author visual editor mode, you would need
to re-write counters and so on, take conrefs, conref ranges into
account.
How about if you add a simple CSS selector like to the CSSs used to
edit the DITA XML topic in the Author mode?
ol[outputclass^="start("]:before {
display:block;
content: "[Starts in "
oxy_replace(oxy_replace(attr(outputclass), "start(", ""), ')', "") "]";
color:red;
}
At least this will show the writer that the start number has been set
on the ol.
https://blog.oxygenxml.com/topics/customizeDITACSS.html
Regards,
Radu
Radu Coravu
Oxygen XML Editor
On 11/2/25 04:25, Scott Prentice wrote:
I'm working with DITA content that has lots of nested lists and
those lists use custom numbering styles, as well as the occasional
numbering reset (handled by setting the "start" attribute in HTML).
I'm able to handle this fine in HTML and PDF output .. but it would
be nice to also show all of this in the Author view in Oxygen. I'm
good with the numbering styles, but the numbering reset (start)
isn't going well.
As far as I can tell, the "right" way to deal with this is to use
the counter-reset and counter-increment CSS properties and to use
the counter function in a content property (li:before). I can get
this to work to some degree, but it's absurdly complicated, since
you're no longer relying on the native numbering (style and
incrementing) .. you have to recreate this for all possible cases.
If there was a CSS "start" property, this would just work .. no?
Yes. I know that "start" is a hack and was booted from HTML4 .. but
it's back in HTML5. Yes. I know that in a perfect world, the start
attribute shouldn't be needed .. but in reality, it is. I'm setting
this in DITA as .. ol/@outputclass='start(n)' .. it's all "good"
except that I can't get this to render in Oxygen.
Is there some special Oxy-function that I'm missing? Any thoughts on
how to address this?
Thanks!
Scott
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